Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
hors menus
English translation:
not included in set menus/à la carte only
French term
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hors menus
I know this seems very simple but I'd like to be sure I'm getting it right. On the list we have "Les Coupes Glacées" as a title, followed just below by "hors menus" and then, further down again, the list of ice cream dishes, each one followed by a description.
Does "hors menus" mean that you don't get these yummy combinations if you choose the ice-cream dessert from the set menu? Would "non-menu" be ok?
MTIA
| 4 +2 | excluded from set menus / not included in set menus |
Tony M
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| 4 +4 | à la carte only |
CMJ_Trans (X)
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| 4 | à la carte |
NancyLynn
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Proposed translations
excluded from set menus / not included in set menus
But your interpretation is certainly correct --- it means these 'special' desserst are not included in the set menus (where you only get soggy apple pie or plain balls of ice-cream!)
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Mark Nathan
: not included in set menus unless you bribe the waiter/tress
51 mins
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Thanks, Mark! I always find a sweet smile and a sly little wink works wonders --- well, with the waiters, anyway ;-) I well remember a café liègois during a thunderstorm in Nevers...
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Cervin
4 hrs
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Thanks, Janet!
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à la carte only
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sporran
2 hrs
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Tony M
: Yes, I think expressing it in this more positive way might well be better from a marketing point of view -- depending, of course, on the style of the restaurant, and whether it calls its menus 'Table d'hôte' and 'À la carte' or not
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Chanda Danley
16 hrs
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Theodora OB
18 hrs
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à la carte
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Tony M
: It's not exactly that, Nancy; it means that even though the set menu says '+ dessert', it doesn't include these particular desserts; a fair restaurant would just charge a supplement, others might actually bill separately; I wouldn't go back there!
5 hrs
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I did notice a big difference in the management of restaurants in Europe as opposed to here. Clare is likely to wanat a European explanation, but I'll let mine stand for future gloss searches that may apply to Canada
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Discussion
And yes, Dusty, my "non-menu" is pretty grim!