Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
métiers dart
English translation:
applied arts
Added to glossary by
jarry (X)
Sep 14, 2004 13:06
20 yrs ago
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French term
métiers dart
French to English
Other
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Le Ministre constitue un comité d’acquisition forme d’un représentant du propriétaire, d’un spécialiste des arts visuel ou des métiers d’art...
craft?
craft?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 -1 | crafts |
jarry (X)
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| 5 +2 | craft/artistic professions |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
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| 4 | applied arts |
Tony M
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| 3 | fine arts and crafts |
Diane Ferland (X)
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| 4 -1 | plastic art(s) |
Anthony Chalkley (X)
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Proposed translations
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2 mins
French term (edited):
m�tiers d�art
Selected
crafts
Declined
Yes, I think you guessed right.
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Craft: an occupation or trade requiring special skill, ESPECIALLY MANUAL DEXTERITY!
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Note added at 4 hrs 31 mins (2004-09-14 17:37:30 GMT)
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Metiers: Genre d\'occupation MANUELLE ou mécanique qui trouve son utilité dans la société.
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http://www.arts-crafts.com/
In the spirit of the societies created during the early 20th century in response to the Arts & Crafts Movement, this site has been created to provide an online \"home\" for the present-day Arts & Crafts Movement community. If you aren\'t sure what the Arts & Crafts Movement is/was, check out the Archives for more information.
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http://216.155.1.3:591/craftartists/
Welcome to The Crafts Report Online\'s Craft Artist listings. To find a craft artist, type in any part of the company or craft artist name in the appropriate fields in the right-hand box, or search for artists by medium using the categories below.
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Note added at 4 hrs 27 mins (2004-09-14 17:34:07 GMT)
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Craft: an occupation or trade requiring special skill, ESPECIALLY MANUAL DEXTERITY!
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Note added at 4 hrs 31 mins (2004-09-14 17:37:30 GMT)
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Metiers: Genre d\'occupation MANUELLE ou mécanique qui trouve son utilité dans la société.
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Note added at 4 hrs 33 mins (2004-09-14 17:40:21 GMT)
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http://www.arts-crafts.com/
In the spirit of the societies created during the early 20th century in response to the Arts & Crafts Movement, this site has been created to provide an online \"home\" for the present-day Arts & Crafts Movement community. If you aren\'t sure what the Arts & Crafts Movement is/was, check out the Archives for more information.
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http://216.155.1.3:591/craftartists/
Welcome to The Crafts Report Online\'s Craft Artist listings. To find a craft artist, type in any part of the company or craft artist name in the appropriate fields in the right-hand box, or search for artists by medium using the categories below.
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: No, too 'folksy' for this kind of context...
25 mins
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I think you are barking up the wrong tree. See my added comments above.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
1 hr
French term (edited):
m�tiers d�art
fine arts and crafts
I have sometimes seen it translated this way although I cannot quote any references at the moment.
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36 mins
French term (edited):
m�tiers d�art
craft/artistic professions
This really explains it:
4.1 The conservator-restorer’s professional activities are distinct from those of the artistic or craft professions. A basic criterion of this distinction is that, by their activities, conservator- restorers do not create new cultural objects. *****It is the province of the craft and artistic professions **such as metal-smiths, gilders, cabinet-makers, decorators, and others** to reconstruct physically what no longer exists or what cannot be preserved. However, they too can benefit immeasurably from the findings of conservator-restorers, and from their guidance.****
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metiers in this instance refers to the PEOPLE
FINAL: a specialist from the craft/artistic professions
4.1 The conservator-restorer’s professional activities are distinct from those of the artistic or craft professions. A basic criterion of this distinction is that, by their activities, conservator- restorers do not create new cultural objects. *****It is the province of the craft and artistic professions **such as metal-smiths, gilders, cabinet-makers, decorators, and others** to reconstruct physically what no longer exists or what cannot be preserved. However, they too can benefit immeasurably from the findings of conservator-restorers, and from their guidance.****
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metiers in this instance refers to the PEOPLE
FINAL: a specialist from the craft/artistic professions
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3 hrs
French term (edited):
m�tiers d�art
plastic art(s)
It seems to be important to bring out the fact that it does not include visual arts which are mentioned separately
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Tony M
: Since when were 'plastic arts' NOT 'visual arts?! And 'métiers d'art' SPECIFICALLY means APPLIED arts, which plastic arts are by no means necessarily! Jane's definition covers it perfectly, though I don't like her suggested term.
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absolutely not: "arts appliqués" SPECIFICALLY means APPLIED arts
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29 mins
French term (edited):
m�tiers d�art
applied arts
I have researched this one before, and I believe the standard translation is this.
I must have got it from either GDT, Eurodicautom or Collins-Robert...
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I hate quoting Google stats., but \"applied arts\" gets c. 429,000 hits, compared with just 995 for \"artistic professions\" --- I didn\'t bother looking any further!
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Here is the complete GDT entry:
métiers d\'art n. m. pl.
Définition :
Ensemble des professions artisanales.
anglais
Domaine(s): - art
crafts
applied arts
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Asker:
I don\'t give a fig about the points, but if ever you need to correct a grading etc. error, just contact one of the Moderators below by clicking on [Call to this question], and they can take care of it for you :-)
I must have got it from either GDT, Eurodicautom or Collins-Robert...
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Note added at 3 hrs 16 mins (2004-09-14 16:23:02 GMT)
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I hate quoting Google stats., but \"applied arts\" gets c. 429,000 hits, compared with just 995 for \"artistic professions\" --- I didn\'t bother looking any further!
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Note added at 7 hrs 31 mins (2004-09-14 20:37:57 GMT)
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Here is the complete GDT entry:
métiers d\'art n. m. pl.
Définition :
Ensemble des professions artisanales.
anglais
Domaine(s): - art
crafts
applied arts
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Note added at 2 days 1 hr 40 mins (2004-09-16 14:47:10 GMT) Post-grading
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Asker:
I don\'t give a fig about the points, but if ever you need to correct a grading etc. error, just contact one of the Moderators below by clicking on [Call to this question], and they can take care of it for you :-)
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
David Vaughn
: Yes, this is the right tone - "crafts" is not formal enough - see Bauhaus for example. I'd also consider going with Visual Arts instead of Fine Arts.
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Thanks, Vaughn! And yes, definitely, VISUAL arts, NOT 'fine'...
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jarry (X)
: Craft artist is the correct translation of "méier d'arts" me thinks.
4 hrs
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Thanks, Jarry! But I think you've got the noun wrong, inasmuch as it is the 'métier', not the 'artiste' / 'artisan'...
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