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Jul 10, 2005 19:19
19 yrs ago
French term

chambre d'été

French to English Other Architecture
This is a description of a room at the back of a house. Could it be a veranda or a porch? Is it enclosed?
Proposed translations (English)
3 covered terrace
4 +3 Summer room/guest room/spare room
5 outdoor bedroom/outdoor room
2 +1 enclosed/screened porch
4 -1 conservatory

Discussion

Michele Fauble Jul 12, 2005:
Yes, I agree, award points to the most helpful answer. BTW, it is not necessary to decline the other answers. (And I understand that the decline option is going to be dropped.)
RHELLER Jul 12, 2005:
yes, I agree w/Sue: most helpful answer :-)
Dr Sue Levy (X) Jul 12, 2005:
I think it is customary to award points to the most helpful answer, whether or not you use the translation offered. It doesn't matter - I don't know what to do with the points anyway :-)
Non-ProZ.com Jul 12, 2005:
Dear Sue,
Can I give you points without accepting your answer? Of course, your answer was the best help, it just wasn't a "covered terrace", that was my problem. Can I change it so that you get 4 points for the website? I would gladly do it. Thanks
Dr Sue Levy (X) Jul 12, 2005:
And my research skills are not even worth one tiny point. Oh well, live and learn!
Non-ProZ.com Jul 11, 2005:
Thanks Sue, I don't know how I missed these pictures! Now I know what it looks like, I have to decide what word to use.
Dr Sue Levy (X) Jul 11, 2005:
How about this: http://www.villa-blanche.ch/fr/20040515/travail2004.htm
Non-ProZ.com Jul 11, 2005:
The house is La Maison blanche in La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland. Le Courbusier's first independant work. I checked all the websites, if I had a photo of the room I would know if it was enclosed or not. I can contact the archetict who did the renovations.
Dr Sue Levy (X) Jul 10, 2005:
Perhaps you could give a little more information Linda.

Proposed translations

51 mins
French term (edited): chambre d'�t�
Selected

covered terrace

This one (très chic) is on the terrace:
http://www.marieclairemaison.com/magazine/visites_6163.htm

It really is meant for sleeping out in the summer. But it could be a partially enclosed verandah also. Where is this house?





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Note added at 13 hrs 14 mins (2005-07-11 08:33:54 GMT)
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Have a look here:
http://www.villa-blanche.ch/fr/20040515/travail2004.htm

This looks like a covered terrace to me :-) and is quite separate from the main building. But I would check to see whether it is really this that your text is referring to.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Michele Fauble : The text refers to it as an 'outdoor room' (chambre extérieure).
20 mins
Sorry misunderstood you - yes it's referred to as a chambre extérieure and a chambre d'été - but I understood that Asker wanted to know what it was, porch etc.
Something went wrong...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks Sue, I was "Lost in KudZ" having more problelms with the idea of declining then with what is most useful in finding my solution. Definitely, your answer. Sorry to for the delay."
57 mins
French term (edited): chambre d'�t�

outdoor bedroom/outdoor room

Declined
La chambre d'été est très agréable pour se reposer après le déjeuner sans jamais perdre de vue la grande bleue, ou dormir dehors les nuits de grande chaleur ...
www.marieclairemaison.com/magazine/visites_6163.htm

While outdoor kitchens are impressive, Gilbert said one of the most unusual living spaces she has ever seen was an outdoor bedroom. ...
www.gazette.net/200514/entertainment/ coverstory/268941-1.html

Along with outdoor kitchens and al fresco bathing, the outdoor bedroom is a natural progression in an ongoing movement to tame the outdoors with the ...
www.northbay.com/homegarden/general/14sleep_d1.html

It creates a beautiful "outdoor room" where you can enjoy your deck or patio rain or shine -- even at night. (See our optional Patio Lights in the top ...
www.sunsetter.com/screenroom.asp

After all, the only thing an outdoor room can't have that an indoor room has is walls! Jane Smith didn't skimp on indoor comforts when she designed her ...
www.hgtv.com/hgtv/gl_design_small_space/ article/0,1785,HGTV_3572_1374434,00.html -
Something went wrong...
Comment: "Dear Michele,I found out it is not attached to the house, so I am using "garden house". Thanks anyway, Linda"
+1
18 mins
French term (edited): chambre d'�t�

enclosed/screened porch

Declined
not sure but it sounds like a room that is only usable in summer

1000 Islands Summer Rentals and Real Estate Sales, Welcome ... spacious living and dining rooms, an enclosed porch and a screened porch ...
www.1000islandpark.com/

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Note added at 3 hrs 32 mins (2005-07-10 22:51:23 GMT)
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taken from the same reference as M. Fauble\'s.... marieclairemaison

\"Elle est composée d\'un lit, tout simple, isolé par une large moustiquaire bordée avec de la corde plombée de pêcheur \"
Peer comment(s):
neutral Michele Fauble : More than a porch, an 'outdoor room' (currently becoming very popular). //Yes, a porch furnished like a room (e.g. with a bed) becomes an 'outdoor room'.
47 mins
FYI a porch is outdoor and moustiquaires are screens
agree Dr Sue Levy (X) : IMO according to what the French call a "chambre d'été" must be a porch or verandah or terrace arranged for sleeping out in the summer. In Oz it's called it a sleepout!
9 hrs
thanks Sue (my name is not Dorothy :-)))
Something went wrong...
Comment: "Dear Rita, I found out it is not attached to the house, so I am using "garden house". Thanks anyway, Linda"
-1
10 hrs
French term (edited): chambre d'�t�

conservatory

Declined
Conservatory, It is a greenhouse, especially one attached to a house.It is a room with glass walls and roof.
Peer comment(s):
disagree Dr Sue Levy (X) : a conservatory in French is "jardin d'hiver" http://www.hausinfo.ch/home/fr/bau_unterhalt/fenster/jardin_...
54 mins
Something went wrong...
Comment: "Dear Raintree,I found out it is not attached to the house, so I am using "garden house". Thanks anyway, Linda"
+3
1 hr
French term (edited): chambre d'�t�

Summer room/guest room/spare room

Declined
Basically it an ordinary room used often as a bedroom but you change the decoration in summer or winter or just according to the season.
It could easily have a verandah or porch if the house has been built with one added on to that particular room. It's used for guests or as a spare room for anything. It does not necessarily have extra sun in summer. That would depend on exposition.

Designer Tips and Decorating Ideas: Interior Designers offer tips ... - [ Traduire cette page ]
Ways to Change Your Rooms for Summer and Winter ... Adding wicker, shell, boating
pictures can add life to a summer room. "My personal palette has always ...
interiordec.about.com/ library/designers/bl_zseasonal.htm - 31k - En cache - Pages similaires

Summer Room at the Edwin K in Florence, OR - [ Traduire cette page ]
The Summer Room has a queen-size bed and two extra single beds, allowing this
room to sleep four people.
www.edwink.com/summer.html - 7k - En cache - Pages similaires



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Note added at 12 hrs 27 mins (2005-07-11 07:46:42 GMT)
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Following your note, this house is protected by UNESCO and has been renovated but pictures are not yet available. I would go for Summer Room still. You would have to check with the architect to find out if they\'ve added a verandah or porch.
Peer comment(s):
agree Nick Lingris : Why the alternatives? Summer room is fine.
2 hrs
Thank you
agree Vicky Papaprodromou
3 hrs
Thank you
agree emiledgar : Also yes - we used to use "chambre d'ete" and "chambre d'amis" interchangeably.
20 hrs
Something went wrong...
Comment: "Dear Anna Maria, I found out it is not attached to the house, so I am using "garden house". Thanks anyway, Linda"
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