Aug 4, 2005 11:34
19 yrs ago
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English term

at which time

English Art/Literary Linguistics
"I left at 6 o'clock, at which time they were still arguing."

Is this sentence grammatically true? Because I feel the phrase "at which time" is not correct.

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Aug 4, 2005:
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liora (X) Aug 4, 2005:
Peace. Shalom. I am in Tel Aviv. Where are you ?
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thank you Liona,
liora (X) Aug 4, 2005:
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liora (X) Aug 4, 2005:
go to google write: they were still when, and you will get examples without a comma.I said to Juvenal Olmos once when we were chatting that I thought the team ...
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Non-ProZ.com Aug 4, 2005:
so coma is possible Liora ha?
liora (X) Aug 4, 2005:
answer to asker: I *think* it depends if it is a defining clause or a relative clause. i.e. I can write: He ran fast when the baby cried. I wouldn`t put a comma there. I might look for more examples but I am out of characters here.
Non-ProZ.com Aug 4, 2005:
Can we put a coma before "when" in this sentence . If so, what is the explanation for that rule?. Your help is much appriciated. Thanks in advance
I left at 6 o'clock, when they were still arguing. (is this true ?)
I left at 6 o'clock, at which time they were still arguing.

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It's fine!

Here "which" is what's called a relative adjective. These are a little archaic, but OK in fixed expressions like this one.

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Note added at 8 mins (2005-08-04 11:42:23 GMT)
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Alternative formulations:
It was 6 o\'clock when I left, and they were still arguing.
When I left at 6 o\'clock, they were still arguing.
They were still arguing when I left at 6 o\'clock.
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They were still arguing at 6 o'clock when I left. At 6 o'clock when I left they were still arguing

The others are also fine, I am just rephrasing.
I wonder if they have been arguing all day long (till 18.00) or all night long (till 06.00)
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