May 22, 2005 10:47
19 yrs ago
English term

’Twas Christmas

Non-PRO English Art/Literary Linguistics
I know that fairy tales begin with : Once upon a time... Is that the same idea ? I mean the contraction.
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May 22, 2005 13:39: Aisha Maniar changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

PRO (1): Aimee

Non-PRO (3): Richard Benham, giogi, Aisha Maniar

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English term (edited): �twas christmas
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Not exactly

Once upon a time means at some time in the past, usually the remote past.
'Twas Christmas - archaic abbreviation for "It was Christmas" - is tied to something specific, in this case Christmas.
'Twas is similarly use in other opening sentences, such as "'Twas a dark and stormy night..."

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Note added at 12 mins (2005-05-22 10:59:48 GMT)
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Typo: \"...is similarly used...\"
Peer comment(s):

agree cmwilliams (X)
1 min
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agree RINA LINGUISTIC SERVICES, Katarina Radojevic- Mitrovic
3 mins
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agree jrb
7 mins
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agree Richard Benham : 'Twas brillig and the slithy toves / Did gyre and gimble in the wabe. / All mimsy were the borogoves, / And the mome raths outgrabe.
50 mins
Thank you. Also "'Twas the night before Christmas, and all though the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse..." See http://www.proz.com/post/186002 for Jabberwocky in French, German and other languages.
agree Paula Vaz-Carreiro
1 hr
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agree Robert Donahue (X)
2 hrs
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agree RHELLER
2 hrs
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agree Aisha Maniar
2 hrs
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agree rangepost
2 hrs
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agree Tony M
3 hrs
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agree PRAKASH SHARMA : well, can we use 'Twas or is it should be 'twas?? May be I'm not right!!
3 hrs
Thanks. Depends if it's the first word in the sentence, in which case use 'Twas, even though the T is an abbreviation for It.
agree tappi_k
3 hrs
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agree Alfa Trans (X)
6 hrs
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agree airmailrpl : --
7 hrs
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agree Cristina Santos
12 hrs
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agree Refugio
13 hrs
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agree KNielsen
19 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you Dusty and all the commentators :D. I knew we would learn a lot about everything and more. Academic debate ? I hope so ! That's what make proz unique. "
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4 mins
English term (edited): �twas Christmas

It was Christmas

It is an abbreviation of "it was", formerly common colloquially and in literature, now poetic or archaic, and dialectal. (Oxford English Dictionary).

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Note added at 2 hrs 55 mins (2005-05-22 13:42:44 GMT)
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Re the issue raised by Rita et al:
The Oxford English Dictionary uses the term ‘abbreviation’ to describe a number of shortened forms. Zounds, for example, is ‘a euphemistic abbreviation of by God\'s wounds’.
Strictly speaking, what we have in \'twas is aphaeresis (the taking away or suppression of a letter or syllable at the beginning of a word, e.g. round instead of around). See: http://ol.scc.spokane.edu/jstrever/poetry/a_terms.htm or http://www.truepoetmagazine.com/forms-styles.html
In a contraction, something gets dropped in the middle, e.g. he’ll, don’t, let’s, dept, Dr.
Therefore, I believe the OED’s ‘abbreviation’ is a much safer term than the AHD’s contraction.
Peer comment(s):

agree Richard Benham : 'Twas brillig and the slithy toves / Did gyre and gimble in the wabe. / All mimsy were the borogoves, / And the mome raths outgrabe.
53 mins
Thank you, Richard. I was about to respond with the Clement Moore poem, then I saw Jack had beaten me to it.
agree Angie Garbarino
54 mins
Thank you, Angioletta.
neutral RHELLER : a contraction, not an abbreviation; please see my added note (Aphaeresis is one method of contraction)
2 hrs
Thank you. But see my note too. If that's an issue...
agree Aisha Maniar : yes, a contraction
2 hrs
Thank you. But see my note too. If that's an issue...
agree Vicky Papaprodromou : You are right; this is actually a typical example of "aphaeresis" - no harm to call it an abbreviation.
2 hrs
agree Tony M : Fair enough, seems to have a more specific meaning in poetry; cf OED for why I thought it was defined differently...
3 hrs
Yes, see my 'poetry' links.
agree PRAKASH SHARMA : correct!
3 hrs
All I did was a quick copy-and-paste of the OED definition and see what a nest of hornets I have stirred up.
agree tappi_k
3 hrs
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agree Balasubramaniam L.
4 hrs
We have a tendency here to turn a non-pro question about fairy tales into a linguistic issue. :-))
agree airmailrpl : -
7 hrs
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neutral Refugio : There is nothing "safe" about imprecision.
13 hrs
agree KNielsen
19 hrs
Thank you.
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+4
2 hrs
English term (edited): �twas christmas

contraction

Contraction of it was.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.



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Note added at 3 hrs 15 mins (2005-05-22 14:02:59 GMT)
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Apostrophes also indicate letters left out in contractions:

\'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves.... (\'Twas = it was)
Who\'s going to claim the umbrella whose handle is broken? (who\'s = who is)
It\'s a long way to Tepperary.... (it\'s = it is)
http://www.amherst.edu/~writing/writingbetter/mechanics.html

Early Modern English
... extensive use of contractions. EMnE preferred proclitic contractions (\'tis), while PDE prefers enclitic contractions (it\'s). Graphics ... (also called Shakespeare\'s English)
mockingbird.creighton.edu/english/ worldlit/teaching/upperdiv/emodeng1.htm


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Aphaeresis, apocope, hyphaeresis, synalepha, and syncope are methods of contraction.
4. Aphaeresis: is a technique of overt elision which drops the initial unstressed syllable—usually a vowel—of a word; i.e., “’til” for until, “’tis” for it is.
http://www.calvertonschool.org/waldspurger/pages/Poetic Sche...

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it is unfortunate that some peers feel it necessary to turn Kudoz into an academic debate - which is really not helpful to askers in Eng-Eng who mainly come for clarification because their English is not good enough...citing dissertations from Finland will hardly help them in their translation work. I invite Mr. Subito to discuss this topic in forums, if he feels it necessary or advisable.

Re: the paper cited by Mr. Subito below is entitled \"variants of contraction: the case of it\'s and \'tis\".
\"Contractions are combinations of 2 forms in such a way that one of the elements is reduced and the combination functions like a single word\"

Peer comment(s):

agree Aisha Maniar : :-)
32 mins
thanks Aisha :-)
neutral Nick Lingris : It could be a case of 'you say tomayto, I say tomahto', but see this study and how calling it a contraction would be a novelty. http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=7&q=http://nora.hd.uib....
2 hrs
see my added comment
agree airmailrpl : -
5 hrs
thanks airmailrpl :-)
agree Refugio
10 hrs
thanks Ruth :-)
agree KNielsen
17 hrs
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+1
6 hrs
English term (edited): �twas christmas

'twas the day before christmas

opening line of a famous tale.
Peer comment(s):

neutral cmwilliams (X) : 'Twas the Night before Christmas
21 mins
oops! my mistake!
agree KNielsen
13 hrs
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