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English term or phrase:
pallandaries
English answer:
palander / palendar : a flat-bottomed Turkish vessel for transporting horses
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Charles Davis
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English term
pallandaries
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medieval european maritime warfare
Empires of the Sea: The Final Battle for the Mediterranean by Roger Crowley:
" In this spirit, the expedition to Rhodes was put at an inflated 200,000 men and a mighty armada of ships, ‘galleasses, galleys, pallandaries, fustes and brigantines to the number of 300 sails and more’."
I suppose "pallandaries" is also a kind of ship? Does anyone have more info?
Thanks!!
" In this spirit, the expedition to Rhodes was put at an inflated 200,000 men and a mighty armada of ships, ‘galleasses, galleys, pallandaries, fustes and brigantines to the number of 300 sails and more’."
I suppose "pallandaries" is also a kind of ship? Does anyone have more info?
Thanks!!
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palander / palendar : a flat-bottomed Turkish vessel for transporting horses
The source of this quotation, as posted by Polangmar, is Richard Hakluyt, The Principall Navigations, Voiages, and Discoveries of the English Nation (1589), vol. 5. More information on Hakluyt and his works here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hakluyt
The word spelt "pallandaries" by Crowley (according to your text) is indeed spelt "pallandres" by Hakluyt.
It refers to a flat-bottomed vessel used by the Turks to transport horses. The standard spelling in English is "palander", or sometimes "palendar":
"A palander, which the OED calls "rare," is a flat-bottomed ship used on the Mediterranean, originally by the Turks, for carrying horses. Sometimes it is spelled palendar, but the vast majority of appearances are palander."
http://www.drbilllong.com/2007Words/2005XX.html
As well as in the Oxford English Dictionary, it is listed (as "palander") in the unabridged Merriam-Webster dictionary, where it is defined as "a flat-bottomed boat formerly used for horse transport", and also given the obsolete meaning of a fire-ship (a ship set on fire and used to destroy enemy ships in naval battles). It is said here to be derived from the Italian "palandra".
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/palander
Dr Johnson, in his mid-eighteenth century English dictionary, lists "palendar" and defines it as: "A kind of coasting vessel. Obsolete". His usage example, from Knolles's History, again indicates that it was a Turkish vessel and carried animals:
"Solyman sent over light-horsemen in great palendars, which running all along the sea coast, carried the people and the cattle."
http://archive.org/stream/dictionaryofengl02johnuoft#page/n2...
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Although Johnson defines it as a "coasting vessel", a palander or palendar was probably not intrinsically a coaster; he evidently assumed that it was because his source said "all along the sea coast".
The essential points are clearly that it was a flat-bottomed Turkish transport vessel for horses. This is further confirmed by John Florio's definition of the Italian word "palandra" in his Dictionarie of the Italian and English Tongues (1611; first ed. 1598):
"Palándra
a long Turkish garment, or horse-mans coate beneath the knees. Also a kind of flat bottomed Barges or Ships vsed in time of war to transport Horses to and fro, and to make suddaine bridges"
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/florio/366small.html
So it was essentially a kind of barge, and as well as transporting animals it could be used to make an improvised ("suddaine") bridge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hakluyt
The word spelt "pallandaries" by Crowley (according to your text) is indeed spelt "pallandres" by Hakluyt.
It refers to a flat-bottomed vessel used by the Turks to transport horses. The standard spelling in English is "palander", or sometimes "palendar":
"A palander, which the OED calls "rare," is a flat-bottomed ship used on the Mediterranean, originally by the Turks, for carrying horses. Sometimes it is spelled palendar, but the vast majority of appearances are palander."
http://www.drbilllong.com/2007Words/2005XX.html
As well as in the Oxford English Dictionary, it is listed (as "palander") in the unabridged Merriam-Webster dictionary, where it is defined as "a flat-bottomed boat formerly used for horse transport", and also given the obsolete meaning of a fire-ship (a ship set on fire and used to destroy enemy ships in naval battles). It is said here to be derived from the Italian "palandra".
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/palander
Dr Johnson, in his mid-eighteenth century English dictionary, lists "palendar" and defines it as: "A kind of coasting vessel. Obsolete". His usage example, from Knolles's History, again indicates that it was a Turkish vessel and carried animals:
"Solyman sent over light-horsemen in great palendars, which running all along the sea coast, carried the people and the cattle."
http://archive.org/stream/dictionaryofengl02johnuoft#page/n2...
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Note added at 5 hrs (2012-11-05 08:36:18 GMT)
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Although Johnson defines it as a "coasting vessel", a palander or palendar was probably not intrinsically a coaster; he evidently assumed that it was because his source said "all along the sea coast".
The essential points are clearly that it was a flat-bottomed Turkish transport vessel for horses. This is further confirmed by John Florio's definition of the Italian word "palandra" in his Dictionarie of the Italian and English Tongues (1611; first ed. 1598):
"Palándra
a long Turkish garment, or horse-mans coate beneath the knees. Also a kind of flat bottomed Barges or Ships vsed in time of war to transport Horses to and fro, and to make suddaine bridges"
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/florio/366small.html
So it was essentially a kind of barge, and as well as transporting animals it could be used to make an improvised ("suddaine") bridge.
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pallandres
Wherefore hee made most extreme diligence to rigge and apparell many ships and vessels of diuers sorts, as galliasses, gallies, pallandres, fustes, and brigantines, to the number of 350. sailes and moe.
[Footnote: A Galliasse was a 3 masted galley; Pallandres were manned by 20
men and Fustes by 12 to 15.]
http://www.familytreelegends.com/records/42342?c=read&page=1...
http://tinyurl.com/arkfhyj
[Footnote: A Galliasse was a 3 masted galley; Pallandres were manned by 20
men and Fustes by 12 to 15.]
http://www.familytreelegends.com/records/42342?c=read&page=1...
http://tinyurl.com/arkfhyj
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