Jul 24, 2013 02:38
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English term

Ret/Graduation

English Other Education / Pedagogy College transcript
I am translating a transcript into Spanish and I cannot find what "Ret" stands for. It appears right below "Current Term" and above "Cum Undergrad"

Thank you kindly for your help.

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Monica Colangelo (asker) Jul 24, 2013:
@Taña I know. Our system is entirely different too. Thanks again!
Taña Dalglish Jul 24, 2013:
Hi Mónica Sorry, it appears I misunderstood your question. I haven´t had the time to properly explore "retention" and how it relates to a student grades and credits (particularly a college student's transcript!). Hope someone can chime in and help you to clear it up soon as I am unfamiliar with the US system. Good luck!
Monica Colangelo (asker) Jul 24, 2013:
@Taña I'm so thankful for all the research you've done! However, I do understand what retention means, but I cannot figure out what it has to do with a student's grades and credits :(
Taña Dalglish Jul 24, 2013:
@ Mónica Retention/Graduation? That is the million dollar question! I have no idea. http://oregonstate.edu/admin/aa/ir/retention-degree-graduati... (have a look here!)
Retention Rate/Graduation Rate Reports

These reports provide retention and graduation rates for entering
freshmen cohorts for the university and by college. The cohorts
represent first-time, full-time, degree-seeking freshmen who
enrolled at OSU during the fall term or the previous summer and here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100201111510AA...
Monica Colangelo (asker) Jul 24, 2013:
@Taña No, it is a college student's transcript
Monica Colangelo (asker) Jul 24, 2013:
@Taña Yes, it is. And what would Retention/Graduation mean?
Taña Dalglish Jul 24, 2013:
Monica: Here is a document which may explain "Retention". Sorry, I am pushed for time, so I am unable to go through it.
Minority Student Retention: Resources for Practitioners - Dean of ...
new.dso.iastate.edu/sites/default/files/.../minority-retention-seidman.pdf‎
by A Seidman - Cited by 77 - Related articles
more strident in the current environment of tuition deregulation and fis- .... experiences during the undergraduate years and to determine how different .... ents, and such students are often unable to successfully navigate the cum- .... then, RET EID ... success rate (retention, graduation) of students from specific high schools.
Taña Dalglish Jul 24, 2013:
Check this document out "RET" > Retention.
Print All Transcripts (PDF file - 9MB) - Dramatic Impact Ministries
www.dramaticimpact.com/robbiemoritz/print/alltranscripts.pd...
REJECT ÜOC'UMENT IF SlGNATUFėE BE ISDITOHTED. Ret/Graduation. Cum Undergrad. | BIOL 2205 GENERAL ZOOLOGY'Ï. Current Term. |. GPA. GROUND.
Taña Dalglish Jul 24, 2013:
@ Mónica Is this a US transcript?

Rogers State University CRISP TIMOTHY W 1701 W. will Rogers ...
media.wix.com/.../5b162d_cdcbd3f81217223dcb0a96e405791f30.pdf?...‎
0 0 . 00. Undergrad Attempt Earned Points Divisor GPA ***Ret/Graduation*** 23 .0 23 .0 390 13 . 0 3 . 00. Current Term 3 .0 3 .0 9 . O 3 . O 3 . 00 Cum Undergrad 23 .

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ESTERN
media.hometeamsonline.com/photos/baseball/.../Martin_Dunlap.pdf‎
Undergrad Attempt Earned Points Divisor GPA. Ret/Graduation 6 . O0 6. O0 21 . OO 6 .00 . Current Term 12 . 00 12 . O0 39 .OO 12 . O0 3 . 25. Cum Undergrad 6.
Monica Colangelo (asker) Jul 24, 2013:
@Daniusz Retaken does ring a bell, but I cannot figure out what Retaken/Graduation means then
lorenab23 Jul 24, 2013:
This is from a High School transcript but maybe it can help you
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/English/education_pedagogy/754267-...
Darius Saczuk Jul 24, 2013:
Retaken?Retake?

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retention/graduation GPA

American college students can have two different GPAs (grade point averages) on their transcript: the Cumulative GPA, which includes includes all grades for all courses taken, and the Retention/Graduation GPA, which excludes grades for courses that have been repeated or reprieved. That is to say, if a course has been repeated, only the grade for the retake is included in the Retention/Graduation GPA, though both grades (first and second attempts) are included in the Cumulative GPA. "Reprieved", at least in some places, means that a student may petition for grades in one or two semesters to be excluded. If the petition or "reprieve" is granted, the relevant grades are again excluded from Retention/Graduation, though included in Cumulative.

So really the Retention/Graduation GPA has that name because it takes into account only the grades that are "retained" for "graduation" purposes.

"Cum", below this, must of course mean "Cumulative".

"RETENTION/GRADUATION GPA — grade point average computed excluding those courses repeated or reprieved, in accordance with the academic forgiveness policy, as well as remedial and PE activity courses and used to determine a student’s eligibility to enroll in classes and to graduate. "
http://catalog.ou.edu/current/General_Info_Glossary.htm

"Ret/Graduation GPA - All courses in which a student has
a recorded grade will be counted in the calculation of the gradepoint average for retention purposes excluding any courses
repeated or forgiven as detailed in the State Regents' Grading
Policy and excluding remedial/developmental (pre-college)
courses. Beginning in 1994, the retention GPA also excludes
physical education activity courses.
Cumulative GPA - Includes all attempted regularly
graded course work."
http://ranger3.nwosu.edu/catalog/04_05/section_IV_V_04_05.pd...

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Note added at 5 hrs (2013-07-24 07:48:46 GMT)
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What is confusing at first is that universities also use the word "retention" in quite a different sense: retention of students, which is more or less equivalent to the "drop-out rate". That's not the sense here; it refers, as I say, to retention of grades.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2013-07-24 08:19:08 GMT)
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I was wondering about how you'd say this in Spanish. Cumulative vs. Retention is almost like "bruto" / "neto" (but I don't think you can call it that!). It may need an explanatory note.

In the Dominican Republic the cumulative GPA is called the "índice académico acumulado", but I don't know what term (if any) they use for the retention/graduation GPA. And anyway, the Dominican Republic is a long way from Argentina...

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Note added at 6 hrs (2013-07-24 08:50:01 GMT)
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This is what makes educational translation so difficult: the terminology and concepts vary so much from one country to another. And not just between English-speaking and Spanish-speaking countries: the US and UK systems are very different from each other. And even within the UK, Scotland has its own system and terms. It's a real headache!

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Note added at 1 day17 hrs (2013-07-25 20:14:57 GMT) Post-grading
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That's a good solution: the best you can do with it, I think. Thanks for letting me know; I was curious! Best wishes.
Note from asker:
Thank you so much, Charles. I will need to read it about ten times to clearly understand what it means and figure out a decent translation!
I know, I know, just as in customer retention or employee retention. Our system is so totally different that it is hard to understand
Yes... we do not have a GPA or even credits, nor do we get to choose which grades are to be included. We are not allowed to give a final examination a second shot because we do not like the passing marks either!
Glad I got you right, then!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks a lot, Charles. I finally chose "Promedio de Calificaciones con exclusiones" and explained what "exclusions" referred to."
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