Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
"said" OR "the said"
English answer:
the said
English term
said sth OR the said sth
On the other hand, I hear the phrase "he renounced his claim to the above-mentioned apartment" could be rephrased into "he renounced his claim to said apartment". Is it correct to delete the definite article from it? Is there any good web site on the use of articles?
Jan 1, 2006 11:27: Fuad Yahya changed "Field" from "Other" to "Art/Literary"
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The omission of the definite article is a form of allowed laxity in some genres.
Fuad
depends on context
Don't sweat it.
tough
My wife has a slavic language as her mother tongue. She is ALWAYS having problems about when to put THE in the sentence and when to leave it OUT.
My only response to her, and you, is "It doesn't SOUND right that other way."
You might check the link.
Use "the said" when "The" begins a sentence...
Do not use "the" before "said" in the middle of a sentence when referring to an object (such as an apartment).
Just an instinctive rule of thumb for me as a native speaker. I am not able to substantiate in the least grammatically. :)
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ingot
: 'said' at the beginning of a sentence needs 'The' in front of it.If 'said' is elswhere in the sentence one needn't use 'the'.
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Stanislaw Watson Zajaczkowski (X)
: doesn't SOUND right that other way
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ledit
it s a legalese
I quote:
The use of said as an adjective meaning aforementioned comes from legal and business writing, and
While the OED Online may give a determiner in all its examples; said is not always used with a determiner. I don't see how "of said child" can be grammatical if you don't consider said a determiner. In fact, I think these Google Ngrams make it clear that said is a determiner in American English but not in British English
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