English term
tomboy
| 3 +2 | otenba (musume), okyan (na musume), hanekaeri, yancha, |
Mika Jarmusz
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| 5 | otoko no onna |
Ala Rabie
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| 4 -1 | じゃじゃ馬（jajauma） or おてんば(otenba) |
Minoru Kuwahara
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| 1 +1 | sukeban |
cinefil
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May 24, 2006 11:56: Shimpei Shimizu (X) changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
Non-PRO (3): humbird, Can Altinbay, Shimpei Shimizu (X)
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Proposed translations
otenba (musume), okyan (na musume), hanekaeri, yancha,
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Yukari Nakamura
: I agree with "Otenba(musume)".
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humbird
: "Otenba" is most standard translation for this English, but I doubt if this is a slang.
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Iyasu Nagata
: "Otenba" is the term you're looking for. Hands down.
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sukeban
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humbird
: Comment corrected -- "Sukeban" is a girl who is a leader of a gang group, who acts/talks/behaves like a boy honcho. Still feel far-fetched, but it is a slang all right.
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I agree with you, but the questioner insists to search 'slang term' for some reason and 'otenba' 'okyan' are not slang
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otoko no onna
It sounded really offensive to me though.
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'otoko onna' then.
Thank you, koyama-san!
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humbird
: More colloquial term is "otoko onna", no "no". Well despite your personal inclination this slang is invented long before the era of political correctness. I believe this is closest.
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it has been a while since i heard it you see. merci, koyama-san :)
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Iyasu Nagata
: as Susan says, there is a term "otoko onna" but it usually refers to someone older than tomboy age, and has more of a connotation of "androgenous" or "lacking in feminine charm"
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as i said before, it has been used to describe the protagonist of shojo-anime shoujo kakumei utena. frankly, i don't understand what you are disagreeing on, nagata-san. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Girl_Utena
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Japan
Native in: Japanese
Works in: English to Japanese, French to Japanese, Japanese to English
じゃじゃ馬（jajauma） or おてんば(otenba)
BTW have never read nor watched the title or its drama myself! I just know what the term means there. "A very lively young girl who enjoys activities and games that are traditionally considered to be for boys" as defined in Oxford Modern Dictionary.
HTH in some way
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I should note it need not necessarily to be slang words in Japanese as to appropariate translations.
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Ala Rabie
: well, mulberryfieldさん, i have read shakespear's play in many languages as well as the original, and katherina minola was never a tomboy! shrew = a scolding nagging bad-tempered woman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherina_Minola をご参照くださいませ。
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