Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
expeditionary ships
Hebrew translation:
כח משימה משולב
Added to glossary by
Lingopro
Dec 26, 2011 18:07
12 yrs ago
English term
expeditionary ships
English to Hebrew
Other
Transport / Transportation / Shipping
Ship types
Four classes of U.S. Navy aircraft carriers and **expeditionary ships** carry the SSDS.
Is it ספינות משלחת? Somehow it doesn't seem right...
Is it ספינות משלחת? Somehow it doesn't seem right...
Proposed translations
(Hebrew)
3 | כח משימה משולב | Joshua11 (X) |
4 +1 | ספינות משלוח צבאיות ספינות משלחת צבאיות ספינות חיל המשלוח | Yevgeniy Y. Zingerman |
4 | ספינות כוח משימה | Doron Greenspan MITI |
3 | ספינות אמפיביות | Gad Kohenov |
Proposed translations
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כח משימה משולב
Expeditionary strike groups are a newer naval organization comprised of several task forces to combine and increase sea, air and land attack abilities. Not all ships in an ESG are expeditionary ships.
Note from asker:
Thank you, Joshua! Very helpful link. |
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ספינות משלוח צבאיות ספינות משלחת צבאיות ספינות חיל המשלוח
Expeditionary forces
מתורגמים בויקיפדיה בתור
חיל המשלוח
אולי הוספת המילה "צבאיות" ל"ספינות משלוח" תעזור לכוונן את המשמעות קצת
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סליחה, בכותרת התשובה שלי נעלמו קווים נטויים בין שלושת הגרסאות המוצעות
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כן, ספינות חיל הים גם נשמע בסדר גמור
מתורגמים בויקיפדיה בתור
חיל המשלוח
אולי הוספת המילה "צבאיות" ל"ספינות משלוח" תעזור לכוונן את המשמעות קצת
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סליחה, בכותרת התשובה שלי נעלמו קווים נטויים בין שלושת הגרסאות המוצעות
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כן, ספינות חיל הים גם נשמע בסדר גמור
Note from asker:
Thanks, Yevgeniy.</br> I'm not sure about the relevance of the link which talks about WWI <b>Forces</b>. </br>My text is current and talks about two types of US Navy ships: <b>aircraft carriers and expeditionary ships</b>.</br>So, while it may be called ספינות משלוח, I need to base it on something more relevant than 1917... :-).</br>BTW, I think חיל הים is more appropriate than צבאיות. |
49 mins
ספינות כוח משימה
These are ships that make up a task force (expeditionary force) that the US and other countries send to various parts of the world. American ships normally accompany an aircraft carrier.
Note from asker:
Thank you, Doron. </br>I assume you mean <b>expeditionary</b> (not American) ships normally accompany an aircraft carrier. </br>Thanks for the interesting link that helped shed light on what these ships are. |
20 hrs
ספינות אמפיביות
www.amiinter.com/.../IMDEX%202011%20AMI%20Asia- ...
לפי מה שכתוב במאמר זה מדובר בספינות אמפיביות אשר מסייעות בשעת נחיתה על חוף עוין
Bob Nugent מחבר המאמר
[email protected]
אולי תשלחי אליו אי מייל כדי לפתור את התעלומה
לפי מה שכתוב במאמר זה מדובר בספינות אמפיביות אשר מסייעות בשעת נחיתה על חוף עוין
Bob Nugent מחבר המאמר
[email protected]
אולי תשלחי אליו אי מייל כדי לפתור את התעלומה
Note from asker:
Thanks, Gad. |
Reference comments
50 mins
Reference:
סרט היסטורי על חיל המשלוח הבריטי
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=24790
The British Expeditionary Force
שנאלץ לשוב על עקבותיו במסגרת "נס דנקירק" מ-1940
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http://www.wordnik.com/words/expeditionary
ספינות משלוח מתאים כאן לדעתי
הסבר על SSDS
SSDS
Ship's Self Defense System (SSDS) is an integrated weapons system used aboard large U.S. Navy ships, such as Nimitz class supercarriers and various amphibious assault ships, such as LHDs and LSDs. SSDS is an integrated combat direction system (CDS). SSDS follows an open architecture approach and uses existing shipboard radars and weapons systems, integrated under a COTS framework, to provide a cohesive CDS. The first SSDS designs were backfit onto existing U.S. Navy ships.
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קטע ממאמר בעיתון הגארדיין הבריטי
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/aug/23/michael-...
They do not even suggest that the navy's two new aircraft carriers should be scrapped, trimmed or mothballed. It is too late for that. At 65,000 tonnes apiece, they are due to be completed at Rosyth (Brown did grasp constituency employment issues) for at least £4bn, by 2016-ish. The authors do insist that 21st-century "expeditionary" warfare will need versatile surface ships – and that defence is not a discretionary spending item even for impoverished coalitions. Over to you, Liam Fox.
The British Expeditionary Force
שנאלץ לשוב על עקבותיו במסגרת "נס דנקירק" מ-1940
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http://www.wordnik.com/words/expeditionary
ספינות משלוח מתאים כאן לדעתי
הסבר על SSDS
SSDS
Ship's Self Defense System (SSDS) is an integrated weapons system used aboard large U.S. Navy ships, such as Nimitz class supercarriers and various amphibious assault ships, such as LHDs and LSDs. SSDS is an integrated combat direction system (CDS). SSDS follows an open architecture approach and uses existing shipboard radars and weapons systems, integrated under a COTS framework, to provide a cohesive CDS. The first SSDS designs were backfit onto existing U.S. Navy ships.
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קטע ממאמר בעיתון הגארדיין הבריטי
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/aug/23/michael-...
They do not even suggest that the navy's two new aircraft carriers should be scrapped, trimmed or mothballed. It is too late for that. At 65,000 tonnes apiece, they are due to be completed at Rosyth (Brown did grasp constituency employment issues) for at least £4bn, by 2016-ish. The authors do insist that 21st-century "expeditionary" warfare will need versatile surface ships – and that defence is not a discretionary spending item even for impoverished coalitions. Over to you, Liam Fox.
Note from asker:
This is very helpful, as always. Thank you, Gad. |
1 hr
Reference:
ספינה רב-תכליתית
Whilst my military dictionary gives חיל משלוח for "expeditionary force", therefore logic might dictate something like what you suggested above.
I agree that it lacks something intangible.....
If Doron's link is accurate (my own research suggests it is) that an expeditionary ship is an amphibious, multipurpose, multifunction ship then perhaps something along the lines of
ספינה רב-תכליתית
might be possible.
Or a variation on this.
I agree that it lacks something intangible.....
If Doron's link is accurate (my own research suggests it is) that an expeditionary ship is an amphibious, multipurpose, multifunction ship then perhaps something along the lines of
ספינה רב-תכליתית
might be possible.
Or a variation on this.
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