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Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

web run

French translation:

déroulement de la laize

Added to glossary by Viviane Brigato
Feb 18, 2009 14:17
16 yrs ago
English term

web run

English to French Tech/Engineering Paper / Paper Manufacturing
The orientation of web run is the easiest way to prevent the condensation of coating mist into drops in the free interior space of the hood
Proposed translations (French)
4 +1 déroulement de la laize
2 Orientation de la bobine de tirage

Discussion

Michael GREEN Feb 18, 2009:
No problem .. Thank you Christiane. While I'm confident about "web" and "laize", I am not sure that I have understood what the source text is getting at, though it seems to be a description of a converting operation, probably a coater. But without illustrations (when will Proz have a facility for posting pics ?!), I'm not 100% sure about my suggested phrase (sens de déroulement de la laize).
Ho hum ....
Christiane Bujold Feb 18, 2009:
Just a proposition Thanks Micheal, you are right, and as you can see, I did not present my proposition as certainty. But, I tried to help. And thats what I found. However, I knew that was just a track to follow.
Michael GREEN Feb 18, 2009:
Il faut se méfier du GDT : j'y ai souvent constaté des erreurs de ce genre.
Michael GREEN Feb 18, 2009:
Dans tous les cas, s'agissant de la fabrication de papier (plutôt que de l'imprimerie) le mot "web" se traduit ici par "laize" - le terme "bobine" ne convient pas à la surface continue de papier dans la màp ou la coucheuse.
Michael GREEN Feb 18, 2009:
Viviane : désolé si vous n'avez pas compris mes commentaires : pour résumé, je pesne que "orientation of web run" est une erreur - il s'agit peut-être de "direction of web run".
Michael GREEN Feb 18, 2009:
Not exactl y .. With respect, Christiane, we are talking about paper-making, not printing. The "web" here does not refer to a reel (bobine) but to the continuous "web" (laize) of paper on the machine (or coater). It is only a reel when it comes off the paper machine. Until then it is a "web" in EN and "laize" in FR.
Christiane Bujold Feb 18, 2009:
Vous ne comprenez pas les explications ou la langue anglaise?
Viviane Brigato (asker) Feb 18, 2009:
je suis désolée, je ne comprends pas tout ce que vous me dites. En fait je n'ai besoin de connaitre que la traduction du terme "Web run" (pour ma compréhension personnelle) et malehureusement je n'ai pas plus de contexte si ce n'est que des légendes : "Tissue Combining Rewinder ; Unwind ; Web run ; Calender ; Slitting station ; Rewinder ; AC drives ; Controls ; Auxiliaries for combiner
Christiane Bujold Feb 18, 2009:
translation- Web run According to the comments of Mr. Green, web (syn. reel) is exactly translated by bobine. Could it be possible that some run have a different angle? Go to http://www.granddictionnaire.com/btml/fra/r_motclef/index800...
Michael GREEN Feb 18, 2009:
The reference to "coating mist" implies that we are talking about a coater - on-line or off-line - and it is possibly referring to the angle of the web as it goes through the coater.
Does that fit the context ?
Michael GREEN Feb 18, 2009:
I was 25 years in the paper industry, and "orientation of the web run" is meaningless to me - the "web" (or a reel) can only "run" in the "machine direction" - it cannot be "orientated" in any other direction.
So I suspect your source text is corrupt.
Michael GREEN Feb 18, 2009:
Usual question : can we have more context ?!
Has your source text been translated into EN from another language ?
In paper manufacturing, the "web" is the width of the paper as it runs through the paper machine.

Proposed translations

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déroulement de la laize

Notwithstanding my comments about the quality of the source text (see Clarification request above), since Asker's question concerns only the two words "web run", which is a common enough expression, this is my suggestion.
In order for the phrase "orientation of web run" to be meaningful, I would suggest the author meant "direction of the web run", which would be translated "sens de déroulement de la laize".

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Note added at 4 days (2009-02-23 08:20:45 GMT) Post-grading
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Merci Viviane !
Peer comment(s):
agree Christiane Bujold : merci pour les précisions, mais je dois effectivement dire, à la défense du GDT, que le domaine choisi n'était pas la fabrication de papier, mais l'imprimerie. Je vais noter votre traduction.
13 mins
Merci Christiane - je prends bonne note pour ce pauvre GDT :)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "merci Michel, explication claire."
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Orientation de la bobine de tirage

Je ne sais pas si cela peux convenir, mais je sais que «web» correspond à bobine dans le domaine de l'imprimerie. Quant au mot run, on le traduit souvent par tirage.

On trouve aussi press run pour tirage.
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