Shirley Lao Jun 15, 2017:

The translation for "lock into" or "lock in" may be reworded as 受約束於/受制於/ 锁定在 to adapt to this text.
See: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lock in

clearwater (asker) Jun 15, 2017:

从lock into后面的a startup’s IP来看，这个短语这里显然不是“签协议”的意思。

tanglsus Jun 15, 2017:

圈定?

jyuan_us Jun 15, 2017:

lock into 就是簽協議啊 為什麼要be stuck with “鎖”這個字眼？

jyuan_us Jun 15, 2017:

Shieley Lao has 2 points 1. lock into something:
1[transitive] to come to a firm agreement that will last for some time and cannot be broken
http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/lock-into

2.The phrasal verb "lock into" here does not mean 受困

Agree with her.

Patrick Cheng Jun 15, 2017:

lock into，就好比您如果用了苹果的电脑和iphone，以后所有的相关软件都只好用ios系统。这里如果用了某个startup的专利软件，以后想改换会非常的麻烦，所以也是lock into。用“锁定”应该是可以的。另外，关于without acquisition，我现在想也许用“不通过并购”可能稍好一些，虽然和“未经并购”意思上没有多大的不同：
...太多的大型软件商比如IBM和微软，不希望不通过并购就锁定于某家初创公司的知识产权。而出于前面提到的原因，并购又并非一个可行的方案。

clearwater (asker) Jun 15, 2017:

谢谢诸位！
说到底，还是大家对without acquisition在句中的成分的理解有差异才造成现在各持己见的局面。
我仍觉得在实际翻译时，应该先处理without acquisition，再处理don’t want to lock into a startup’s IP。
而不是说，without acquisition作为后置定语。
但另一个问题是，这里的lock into具体该如何是好。

Patrick Cheng Jun 14, 2017:

未经并购/收购 同意Shirley和tanglsus的看法，作者的意思应该是：
这些解决方案不能是专有性质，因为太多的大型软件商比如IBM和微软不希望锁定于未经并购的初创公司的知识产权。而出于前面提到的原因，并购又并非一个可行的方案。（这方面的人才经常在大公司呆不久）
http://blogs.forrester.com/brian_hopkins/17-06-13-hortonwork...

clearwater (asker) Jun 14, 2017:

@Shirley：谢谢解答！英文水平不行，看了您的英文解答，仍对该句子的理解没有把握。方便的话，可否给出｛｝这句话的中文版处理？费心了！

tanglsus Jun 14, 2017:

未经收购， 就。。。。。。

供参考

tanglsus Jun 14, 2017:

agree with Shirley: without acquisition: 在沒有收購的情況下

供参考

Shirley Lao Jun 14, 2017:

without 在沒有的情況下 https://tw.dictionary.yahoo.com/dictionary?p=without
http://www.ichacha.net/without.html

without acquisition: 在沒有收購的情況下

Shirley Lao Jun 14, 2017:

It is true that these software vendors can use these inventions without actually acquiring the startup's intellectual property rights by paying patent fees. However, patent fees are high-priced and must be paid continuously for years before the patent right of the patent concerned expires. Moreover, this may lead to other rights if these software vendors develop or invent new technologies or systems using these patents.

Shirley Lao Jun 14, 2017:

The phrasal verb "lock into" here does not mean 受困于, 被锁定/局限在.

Shirley Lao Jun 14, 2017:

lock into something:
1[transitive] to come to a firm agreement that will last for some time and cannot be broken
http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/lock-into

"These can’t be proprietary because too many big software vendors like IBM and Microsoft don’t want to lock into a startup’s IP ***without acquisition***"

The above sentence means that big software vendors do not WANT to enter into some sort of agreement such as acquiring the startup's intellectual property rights and even the startup before they can use the startup's intellectual property rights like patents for the new technology like the open-source platform mentioned in this question. As a result, these big vendors prefer to use open-source technologies and systems, which are not proprietary and thus do not have the issue of intellectual property rights.

Hongmin Zhang Jun 14, 2017:

don't want to 不想 don’t want to lock into... without acquisition 不想未收购就受困于……
don't want to 不想

Frank Feng Jun 14, 2017:

后半句：acquisition, which, as previously discussed, they can’t do - 还是说他们不能收购；
再后面：They’d rather bet on the open source ecosystem - 与“open source”相反的做法就是“lock into a startup’s IP" - 锁定/局限在...IP上

clearwater (asker) Jun 14, 2017:

说实话，我说不出具体的原因来，但是直觉告诉我，这里的without acquistion不是“不能收购”或“无法收购”的意思。

Frank Feng Jun 14, 2017:

如果有这个上文正好说明这些大公司不能收购这些小公司。所以具体到这里without acquisition，我觉得确切的意思就是“不能收购”，而不是“还没收购”的小公司

clearwater (asker) Jun 14, 2017:

前面提到：
大公司通过合作，而不是通过收购来求助于有专长的小公司。原因是，如果被大公司收购，这些小公司的人才就会流失，他们在大公司待不久。