Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Türklinkerputzer Program
English translation:
is no foot in the door selling/sales scheme (UK), system, program(me)
Added to glossary by
roak
Jun 20, 2004 22:18
20 yrs ago
German term
Türklinkerputzer Program
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"Network Marketing ist kein Türklinkerputzer Programm. "
What could be a really good translation for the phrase Türklinkerputzer in this context?
Thanks in advance.
What could be a really good translation for the phrase Türklinkerputzer in this context?
Thanks in advance.
Proposed translations
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Proposed translations
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31 mins
German term (edited):
T�rklinkerputzer Program
Selected
is no foot in the door selling/sales scheme (UK), system, program(me)
suggestion-or does it mean lazy person's job?
Peer comment(s):
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Nancy Arrowsmith
46 mins
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agree |
Johanna Timm, PhD
2 hrs
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agree |
roneill
: This is great1 Conjures up images of Avon ladies or Encyclopedia britannica salespeople!
4 hrs
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agree |
Melanie Nassar
: I like this,and the foot in the door keeps the slightly comic/derogatory image
5 hrs
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agree |
Aniello Scognamiglio (X)
7 hrs
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agree |
Louise Mawbey
7 hrs
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agree |
Monika Leit
7 hrs
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agree |
Laurel Porter (X)
: possibly hyphenated (foot-in-the-door selling scheme)?
16 hrs
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agree |
Katrin Atienza (X)
3 days 22 mins
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "This was among the better ones! Thanks"
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2 mins
German term (edited):
T�rklinkerputzer Program
programme for door knob polishers
Why not literal?
Network marketing is not a programme for door knob polishers.
Network marketing is not a programme for door knob polishers.
Peer comment(s):
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Wenjer Leuschel (X)
: Ja, ja, du hast recht.
2 mins
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Though it should be one word: doorknob
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Monika T.
: Depending on the type of text (informal or formal) this could be a good way to say it. I would suggest "Network Marketing is not a door-to-door sales program" (or "programme" if you are translating into British English).
10 mins
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agree |
Johanna Timm, PhD
: absolutely! 'Türklinkenputzer' condescendingly describes the job of a travelling salesman
13 mins
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agree |
roneill
: Exactly! So funny!
5 hrs
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agree |
Aniello Scognamiglio (X)
8 hrs
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German term (edited):
T�rklinkerputzer Program
door-handle-polisher program
Vielleicht kann man es so nennen.
Sicher kann man vielleicht auch so lesen: "Türk-Linker-Putzer." :O))
Sicher kann man vielleicht auch so lesen: "Türk-Linker-Putzer." :O))
Peer comment(s):
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Aniello Scognamiglio (X)
: nein, und entweder "sicher" ODER "vielleicht", aber nicht "sicher vielleicht...".
8 hrs
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Danke schön.
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+1
21 mins
German term (edited):
T�rklinkerputzer Program
travelling saleman program
I am guessing
Peer comment(s):
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Wenjer Leuschel (X)
: And I guess you are somehow right.
18 mins
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neutral |
Aniello Scognamiglio (X)
: ich vermisse die negative Konnotation von "Türklinkenputzen".
7 hrs
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2 hrs
Network marketing is not a program for breaking down open doors
meaning being redundant or engaging in a useless pursuit
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Aniello Scognamiglio (X)
: different meaning, see agrees above, Klaus.
5 hrs
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+1
5 hrs
German term (edited):
T�rklinkerputzer Program
is not a program for street peddlars (or hawkers)
I have high confidence that this expression will carry the idea for you, but other good answers have been provided already.
Kim's answer is right on point; it does, however, require a little thought on the part of people not familiar with the term, but it does have the same flavor as the original. I would be inclined to go with Kim.
However, if you want to be a little more obvious, my answer will do the trick.
Kim's answer is right on point; it does, however, require a little thought on the part of people not familiar with the term, but it does have the same flavor as the original. I would be inclined to go with Kim.
However, if you want to be a little more obvious, my answer will do the trick.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Wolf Brosius (X)
: the slang is actually Klinkenputzer=hawkwer=door-door salesman
11 hrs
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5 hrs
vacuum salesman
there is not enough context to pick the most suitable solution but there may be something about network marketing that implies strategic selling and preselection of prospectives as opposed to a a merely quantitative door-to-door approach. in that case rather than focussing on the door knob I suggest to render the idea of what this programme is not about by using the (poor and surely unfairly treated) vacuum salesman as opposite example.
Peer comment(s):
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Aniello Scognamiglio (X)
: different meaning, see agrees above, sarastro. No context needed here for "Türklinkenputzen", that is always negative!
2 hrs
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I don't share but respect your opinion, please feel free to disagree if you feel like (neutral should be reserved for other cases)
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20 hrs
German term (edited):
T�rklinkerputzer Program
more input
Türklinken putzen has not so much to do with being a pushy salesperson, but to the hard phyical work envolve going from door to door (this is not always used literally, it can just refer to that fact that many individuals have to be approached), and also maybe with the humility involved. One could also use this term to describe somebody's efforts to collect money for a charity or a canvassing politician.
In the above text, it could therefore stress that Network Marketing is a much easier approach, maybe because a great number of individuals can be reached at once (via the network) and not one by one. The overall context would be helpful to decide on the exact connotation implied here.
cf:
Was die Ausbildungsabgabe bewirkt, weiß bislang niemand so recht. Fest steht dagegen, dass Klinkenputzen zum Erfolg führt. Bewiesen haben das erneut die Mitarbeiter der Agentur für Arbeit in Elmshorn. Am "Tag der Ausbildung" warben sie bei rund 450 Betrieben in den Kreisen Pinneberg und Steinburg sowie in Norderstedt für die Schaffung neuer Lehrstellen. Resultat: 62 zusätzliche Ausbildungsplätze können noch in diesem Sommer vergeben werden. Darüber hinaus erhielten die Vermittler Zusagen für 100 weitere Lehrstellen im Jahre 2005.
Es sei offensichtlich, dass vor allem der persönliche Kontakt zur positiven Resonanz geführt habe,...
http://www.abendblatt.de/daten/2004/05/12/293679.html
Klinkenputzen gehört dazu
...
Zuletzt trat Frauke Angel in einem Projekt für arbeitslose Schauspielerinnen auf.
...
Klinkenputzen heißt das, nehmen, was man kriegen kann. Kleine Fernsehauftritte, Sprechrollen im Radio, Synchronisation - oder Werbung. Frauke Angel hat schon öfter Reklame gemacht.
http://www.zeit.de/archiv/1999/46/199946.c-schauspielerin.xm...
Klinkenputzen für Soldaten
Polen sammelt auf Konferenz für Irak-Kontingent
NATO-Länder und osteuropäische Staaten sollen Polen dabei helfen, das Truppenkontingent für die polnische Besatzungszone im Irak zu stellen. Mindestens 7000 Mann stark muss die Friedenstruppe sein, Polen selbst kann aber nur 1500 bis 2000 Soldaten schicken. Auf einer zweitägigen Konferenz in Warschau sollen am Donnerstag und Freitag konkrete Zusagen gegeben werden.
http://www.heute.t-online.de/ZDFheute/artikel/20/0,1367,POL-...
Suggestions:
is not a peddling program
or: program for peddlers
Both terms include the connotation of salesperson as well as the peddling with small-scale, unimportant items.
Or if the text stresses the (physical) ease of making sales using this program, maybe:
a program where you don't wear down your shoes.
In the above text, it could therefore stress that Network Marketing is a much easier approach, maybe because a great number of individuals can be reached at once (via the network) and not one by one. The overall context would be helpful to decide on the exact connotation implied here.
cf:
Was die Ausbildungsabgabe bewirkt, weiß bislang niemand so recht. Fest steht dagegen, dass Klinkenputzen zum Erfolg führt. Bewiesen haben das erneut die Mitarbeiter der Agentur für Arbeit in Elmshorn. Am "Tag der Ausbildung" warben sie bei rund 450 Betrieben in den Kreisen Pinneberg und Steinburg sowie in Norderstedt für die Schaffung neuer Lehrstellen. Resultat: 62 zusätzliche Ausbildungsplätze können noch in diesem Sommer vergeben werden. Darüber hinaus erhielten die Vermittler Zusagen für 100 weitere Lehrstellen im Jahre 2005.
Es sei offensichtlich, dass vor allem der persönliche Kontakt zur positiven Resonanz geführt habe,...
http://www.abendblatt.de/daten/2004/05/12/293679.html
Klinkenputzen gehört dazu
...
Zuletzt trat Frauke Angel in einem Projekt für arbeitslose Schauspielerinnen auf.
...
Klinkenputzen heißt das, nehmen, was man kriegen kann. Kleine Fernsehauftritte, Sprechrollen im Radio, Synchronisation - oder Werbung. Frauke Angel hat schon öfter Reklame gemacht.
http://www.zeit.de/archiv/1999/46/199946.c-schauspielerin.xm...
Klinkenputzen für Soldaten
Polen sammelt auf Konferenz für Irak-Kontingent
NATO-Länder und osteuropäische Staaten sollen Polen dabei helfen, das Truppenkontingent für die polnische Besatzungszone im Irak zu stellen. Mindestens 7000 Mann stark muss die Friedenstruppe sein, Polen selbst kann aber nur 1500 bis 2000 Soldaten schicken. Auf einer zweitägigen Konferenz in Warschau sollen am Donnerstag und Freitag konkrete Zusagen gegeben werden.
http://www.heute.t-online.de/ZDFheute/artikel/20/0,1367,POL-...
Suggestions:
is not a peddling program
or: program for peddlers
Both terms include the connotation of salesperson as well as the peddling with small-scale, unimportant items.
Or if the text stresses the (physical) ease of making sales using this program, maybe:
a program where you don't wear down your shoes.
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