Jul 9 16:08
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English term

to be set down on an ice floe and sent out to the sea

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This means she will be less likely to be set down on an ice floe and sent out to sea.
Radi se o književnom djelu.
'to be set down on an ice floe' koliko mi je poznato, ima idiomatsko značenje 'staviti nekoga na (tanak) led', zanima me prijevod cijele fraze.
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Daryo Jul 10:
her to be set down on an ice floe and sent out to the sea
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izbaciti je na plutajući komad leda / ledeni breg i poželeti joj "sretan put" - na komadu leda koji će se neizbežno kad-tad istopiti negde na otvorenom moru.

Sounds like a "time-delayed" variant of "walking the plank" ... or of "being thrown under the bus" in a land-based variant.

It's ways more unfriendly than "staviti nekoga na tanak led" = putting someone in a tricky / delicate / very unpleasant situation - but still recoverable /not deadly.

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da bude ostavljena na ledenoj santi (/ komadu leda) i puštena do otplovi na otvoreno more

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da bude bačena na ledenu santu (/na odlomak leda) i puštena (/ostavljena) da otplovi na otvoreno more

S obzirom da su ledene sante prilična retkost u Jadranskom moru, ne verujem da postoji neki "ekvivalent" na hrvatskom. Možda je doslovni prevod najjednostavnije rešenje.

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Did Eskimos put their elderly on ice floes to die?
A STAFF REPORT FROM THE STRAIGHT DOPE SCIENCE ADVISORY BOARD

Dear Straight Dope: It’s a cliche that the Eskimo put their old folks out on the ice to die when they can no longer contribute. Does this really happen? Do Eskimos really abandon their elderly? Nick Keenanpr, Washington, DC

bibliophage replies:

Do Europeans cause rat-borne plagues by killing cats because cats are demon spawn?

Sorry for the iciness, but it bugs me when questions about strange Eskimo customs are phrased in the present tense, as if nothing could have changed since the eighteenth century. But yes, in the past some Eskimos did kill old people when circumstances were sufficiently desperate. Pressure from missionaries and national authorities, improving economic conditions, and no doubt evolving notions of acceptable behavior among native peoples eventually brought an end to the practice. The last reported case was in 1939, but the custom was a rarity long before that. In any case, the common perception of taking Granny out to the nearest ice floe and setting her adrift is wrong. I can’t prove it never happened, but it wasn’t the usual method.
https://www.straightdope.com/21343302/did-eskimos-put-their-...


No one has come out yet and explicitly suggested that old folks like me (I am about to turn 83) should be treated the way the Eskimos, as folklore has it, used to treat theirs: put on an ice floe and left to float away into the sunset. We are, however, coming dangerously close.
https://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/04/opinion/etzioni-elderly/i...
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