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Grammar double past participle.
Sep 16, 2022 15:15
1 yr ago
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English term

charter connection

Non-PRO Homework / test English Bus/Financial Tourism & Travel Air Flights
The complete sentence is "After payment for your order, a voucher for the charter connection is sent to you by email".

Now please note what it says about the same subject: "also, a charter is almost always a direct flight with the shortest flight time", so a connecting flight (as in changing planes) doesn't seem to fit here.


Extra info from the internet:

A charter flight is a flight that is chartered is a flight that is booked, reserved and planned specifically for the person, business or other party chartering it.
In other words, while commercial flights take place on a very rigid, pre-determined schedule, a charter flight is much more flexible, and tailored to the needs of the person booking it.
Seats on a chartered flight can be sold as a complete package (i.e. when booking the entire flight), or on a per seat basis from a charter company.
Responses
4 +1 charter flight
3 -2 a charter flight (that connects two places)
Change log

Sep 18, 2022 22:34: Rachel Fell changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (3): Yvonne Gallagher, AllegroTrans, Rachel Fell

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Discussion

Mina Fayek (asker) Sep 25, 2022:
@Daryo I think it's clear that the terms in this context are confusing enough.
Daryo Sep 18, 2022:
Your questions are a bit worrying.
"Why would they need a voucher with this information?"
Do you know what is the purpose/function of a "voucher" in the travel industry?
Certainly not to provide information - it's not some kind of information leaflet. Even without spending few years in the travel industry, there shouldn't be anything puzzling in a travel agent's client being given a voucher for some services be it a flight or stay in a hotel.

BTW if it's a translation test supposed to show your grasp of the terms used in the travel industry, you should be doing it on your own.
Mina Fayek (asker) Sep 17, 2022:
@Yvonne Thank you for your valued input. I have some doubts, tho, if "connection" here is just a confusing synonym of "flight".

1. If someone purchases a flight ticket, then they must know where they would depart from and where they are going. Why would they need a voucher with this information?

2. About your first note, I think the text means that there are no transit flights, otherwise the author wouldn't have taken the time to point to this issue, especially. Do you think the same?

3. About changing or cancelling boarding points, and also about the fact that there might be some changes occurring to the connection points (assumingly referring mainly to departure, destination or even transit points), wouldn't that mean it's not going to be a direct flight?

Thank you so much in advance for your help!
Mina Fayek (asker) Sep 17, 2022:
@Daryo It's a translation test in the domain of tourism. Just a bunch of bullet points like the ones I included as context. Might be a marketing content of a travel agency, because it also says the following: "our agency is not responsible for any issues with customs, health, border control...".
Daryo Sep 17, 2022:
@ Mina F. what exactly is the document you're translating?

Terms and conditions of some travel agent? Instructions for potential clients?

Just on its own

"After payment for your order, a voucher for the charter connection is sent to you by email"

would make me think of someone already having a ticket for a regular / scheduled flight and taking a chartered flight to continue to the final destination. So this "chartered flight" would be in effect a "connecting flight" after the scheduled flight. That would explain why it's a "connecting charter" instead of simply a "charter flight".

Makes sense / agrees with the rest of the text?
Kiet Bach Sep 17, 2022:
@Asker It says, "almost always", not "always".
Mina Fayek (asker) Sep 16, 2022:
Note 2 Thank you so much for your attempt to clarify things, Kiet. There's a statement that stands in the way of making this possible, tho, and that's where it said: "also, a charter is almost always a direct flight with the shortest flight time". So, isn't a direct flight contrary to a connecting flight?
Mina Fayek (asker) Sep 16, 2022:
Additional Context The whole paragraph consists of definitions, and terms of use, of what's called charter flights, so I don't think there's a context about the matter in question in specific; however, here are some more points that might be relevant:

- The carrier may, without notice, transfer a passenger to another carrier for carriage, change aircraft, and change or cancel boarding at points indicated on the ticket.
- The day before departure, no later than 23:00, a confirmation voucher for the charter connection, including all changes, is sent by email.
- The document indicated in the booking is sufficient for boarding. We recommend that you bring a printed version of the charter voucher with you to the airport.
- Tickets and vouchers for charter flights may not be exchanged or refunded.

Mostly points that include tips about vouchers, in addition to the context I included in the original post.

Note to Kiet: If a flight connects two places other than the final destination, wouldn't that be a connecting flight in the first place? Contradictory to being a direct flight.
And if by 2 places you mean the place of departure and the final destination, isn't that what any flight does anyway?

Thank you

Responses

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7 hrs
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charter flight

It just means the (charter) flight. No mystery at all. The difference between scheduled flights and charter flights is that the latter are often organised for special purposes by a tour operator who buys the flight from the airline and then sells off the tickets, It might be a special flight to go to a match or on a charter/package holiday with transfer buses often at the destination airport to bring passengers to their final destination, hotel or venue if all the seats sold are to people going to the same place.
So, let's say French fans want to go to a match or concert in Finland and normally there are no scheduled flights from Paris to Helsinki, a charter flight can be arranged if there is enough interest from fans.
Also charter flights often fly to smaller airports in summer holiday season where there may be no (or few) scheduled flights the rest of the year. Or to the "North Pole" to see Santa Claus in December
Charter flights are also used for visits to pilgrimage sites like Lourdes or Fatima where like-minded people are going to the same place for similar reasons.

"connection" here just means the flight as it is your connection to get to where you want to go.

Note that there are also private charters where there may be a smaller jet, smaller number of people, be more exclusive or high end but, in general charter means non-scheduled
so no, it is NOTHING to do with a connecting flight, a different animal entirely



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Note added at 7 hrs (2022-09-16 22:22:29 GMT)
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a charter is almost always a direct flight with the shortest flight time ==BOTH charters and scheduled flightsgo direct from A to B.

However, if you need to go to C (or come from there), then you need to transfer to a connecting flight from B to C (or C to B)

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Note added at 7 hrs (2022-09-16 22:39:36 GMT)
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I just noticed in the additional info you posted these lines:
"The carrier may, without notice, transfer a passenger to another carrier for carriage, change aircraft, and change or cancel boarding at points indicated on the ticket.
- The day before departure, no later than 23:00, a confirmation voucher for the charter connection, including all changes, is sent by email."

In this case, it could be that your original flight has been changed by "the carrier" =airline and you are now to be sent details of the new flight that may have been organised or chartered from another carrier/airline to meet these needs.
Basically it is an airline saying they may have to put you on another aircraft and make other changes if circumstances so dictate.
Peer comment(s):
agree AllegroTrans : Yes, no contradiction or mystery.
19 mins
Thank you!
neutral Daryo : Agree with all of your explanations, but I have the feeling that in this ST they called it a "connection" and not a "flight" for a reason - looks like there is some still missing context.
15 hrs
They are talking in this specific case about a possible change to your flight or connection., a word that has several meanings
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
-2
12 mins

a charter flight (that connects two places)

A "connection" doesn't have to be a connecting flight, it can be a direct flight that connects two places.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2022-09-16 18:26:39 GMT)
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The "connection" here might even be an internet connection or electronic connection. Do you have more context?

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Note added at 6 hrs (2022-09-16 22:05:25 GMT)
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I don't see the problems of a charter flight being a connecting flight. For example, the United States wants to evacuate some of its citizens from Afghanistan, a charter flight would take them from Afghanistan to Germany, and a regular flight would take them from Germany to the United States.
Note from asker:
Thanks for your suggestion, Kiet.
Peer comment(s):
agree Sarah Lewis-Morgan
20 mins
Thank you!
disagree Teresa Goncalves : A regular flight (non-charter) also connects two places.
1 hr
disagree Yvonne Gallagher : ridiculous "explanation"
6 hrs
disagree Daryo : unconvincing explanation // I don't think that you can just "reinvent" or "repurpose" or "adapt to your understanding of words" the jargon used in a specific trade. HERE "connection" can only be what people selling airplane tickets mean by that.
22 hrs
"connection" is not a jargon of airlines, "connecting flight" is.
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