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Glossary entry

Portuguese term or phrase:

Comissão de Segurança Pública e Combate ao Crime Organizado

English translation:

Commission or Committee on Public Safety and Organized Crime Prevention

Added to glossary by Maria Iracema Martin
Oct 20, 2020 18:42
3 yrs ago
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Portuguese term

Comissão de Segurança Pública e Combate ao Crime Organizado

Portuguese to English Social Sciences Government / Politics Legislative glossary
Como vocês traduziriam a expressão acima, por favor? É o verbete de um glossário legislativo. Pensei em "Committee on Public Security and to Combat Organized Crime". Encontrei exemplos de "Committee on Public Security" e "Committee to Combat Organized Crime". Entretanto, juntar os dois parece-me estranho. Que opinam? Obrigada
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 Commission on Public Safety and Organized Crime Control
4 +1 Public Security and Organized Crime Prevention Commission
4 +1 Commission or Committee on Law Enforcement and Organized Crime Control
4 Commission for Public Security and Combating Organized Crime
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Discussion

Muriel Vasconcellos Oct 21, 2020:
@ Nick If I could update my website, I would post a copy of my Ph.D. dissertation, which specifically includes a large section on piled-up noun modifiers. They are not nouns turned into adjectives as your link suggests. The subject of my thesis was "Theme and Information" -- i.e., word ordering to ensure that listeners and readers quickly grasp the theme and information of a phrase or sentence (i.e., the final point of a sentence, which is intuitively expected at the end). Piled-up noun modifiers are used in argot when everyone understands what your talking about already, which is why they have caught on. But they are only quickly understood by people who are already familiar with the subject. For example, in an article about malaria, everyone knows the topic (or theme), so you would say 'malaria cases' not 'cases of malaria'. But if it was an article about several different diseases, you would make your point by saying 'cases of malaria', 'cases of dengue', etc. For some of my articles on the subject, see: http://www.murieltranslations.com/linguistics_mt_articles.ht...
Nick Taylor Oct 20, 2020:
https://www.aje.com/arc/editing-tip-attributive-nouns-or-adj...
Nick Taylor Oct 20, 2020:
https://www.google.com/search?q="crime prevention commission...
Muriel Vasconcellos Oct 20, 2020:
Noun pileups I think they're a big mistake. In a pileup here, we have a noun phrase nested inside another noun phrase, all modifying the least important word: 'Commission', which scientifically is the element that a reader will notice first.
Colin Bowles Oct 20, 2020:
In this case a bunch of nouns strung together as Nick suggests works fine.

Proposed translations

+2
46 mins
Selected

Commission on Public Safety and Organized Crime Control

IMO, piling up nouns is a bad habit that stifles communication. Also, key words should be 'Safety' and 'Control'.


4. Organized Crime Control Strategies and Their Effectiveness ...www.justice.gc.ca › eng › rp-pr › csj-sjc › jsp-sjp
Canadian efforts to combat organized crime intensified at the end of the 20th century. This report reviews a broad range of studies from the western world that ...
Peer comment(s):
agree Sergio Carré
1 hr
Thank you, Sergio!
agree Ana Vozone
11 hrs
Thank you, Ana!
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5 mins

Commission for Public Security and Combating Organized Crime

Sugestão
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+1
6 mins

Public Security and Organized Crime Prevention Commission

Public Security and Organized Crime Prevention Commission
Peer comment(s):
agree Colin Bowles : "safety" is another possibility
6 mins
Quite so, thanks Colin
neutral Muriel Vasconcellos : I'm not a fan on piling up so many concepts; I think it's a bad habit. Also, it should be 'Safety'. The examples you cited in the discussion had many fewer elements.
35 mins
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+1
2 hrs

Commission or Committee on Law Enforcement and Organized Crime Control

"Segurança Pública" é equivalente a "Law Enforcement" em inglês.
Peer comment(s):
agree Adrian MM. : https://www.proz.com/personal-glossaries/entry/10701719-repr...
25 mins
Thank you, Adrian!
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