English term
comfortable
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This evening is the perfect opportunity to meet your guide and get to know your fellow travellers. Accommodation: Balmoral Hotel (or similar) *Comfortable Hotel*.
Day 2
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Lake Arenal is waiting to be discovered. Accommodation: Arenal Montechiari Hotel (or similar) *Comfortable Hotel*.
Though the word may seem easy to translate, I'm not sure about its exact meaning in this context? Is it a synonym of luxurious? What do you understand by comfortable here? Could you paraphrase it? Many thanks!!!
3 +6 | comfort level |
michael10705 (X)
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4 +2 | Makes you feel well |
Vinícius da Silva
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4 +2 | pleasant, satisfactory, agreeable, relaxed etc. |
Yvonne Gallagher
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4 | cozy |
Andrea Pilenso
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3 +1 | mid-range |
Sarah Bessioud
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3 +1 | adequate/suitable |
Juan Arturo Blackmore Zerón
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4 | three star hotel |
Charlesp
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3 | Comfortable Hotel |
Tony M
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comfort level
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Marcella Silva
: https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/comfort...
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Thank you :)
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Tony M
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Thanks!
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David Sirett
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Many thanks...
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AllegroTrans
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Merci...
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Tina Vonhof (X)
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Thank you.
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GILLES MEUNIER
: meilleure interprétation, il n'y a pas photo....
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merci bien
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Makes you feel well
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philgoddard
: But probably not luxurious.
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Charles Davis
: I agree with Phil
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Miki Taniguchi
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Charlesp
: I don't think so, in this context. It is referring to standard.
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cozy
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Abdalaziz Abuzayed
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Thanks, Abdalaziz!
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Tina Vonhof (X)
: 'Cozy' does not fit in the context.
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Charlesp
: not really (IMHO)
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pleasant, satisfactory, agreeable, relaxed etc.
It's just saying that you are guaranteed acceptable, pleasant, relaxing, accommodation and that you will be "comfortable", and feel at home. So if these NAMED hotels are full, you will be accommodated in similar hotels nearby that will be just as comfortable. Probably should have been without capital letters and in brackets (comfortable hotel)
The hotels are in Costa Rica and the websites have been (badly) translated. The Balmoral is in San José and is 4 star and the Arena is 3 star at Lake Arenal when you Google them
http://www.balmoral.co.cr/default-en.html
http://www.hotelarenalmontechiari.com/
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Charles Davis
: Something like that, yes. I don't think it's a proper name.
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Thanks:-)
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JohnMcDove
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Many thanks:-)
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David Sirett
: agree with your argument, but not with using any of the prposed adjectives
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Ajectives just to help Asker translate. I'd phrase it as Balmoral Hotel (or similar "Comfortable Hotel"); Arenal Montechiari Hotel (or similar "Comfortable Hotel"). This fits the context now we know (thanks Alison) this is classification used
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mid-range
If you look at the website of the Arenal Montechiari Hotel, it's a 3* hotel, which corresponds to a mid-range hotel - as opposed to a luxury 5* hotel or one offering only the basic facilities (1* or 2*).
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Yvonne Gallagher
: one of the hotels is 4 star so not really mid range.
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Charlesp
: It is referring to standard. So, yes.
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Comfortable Hotel
I can't believe it could be meant lietrally — unless this document was written by non-natives, since it is rather unthinkable that there might be an UNcomfortable hotel: cold rooms, lumpy beds, tepid showers, scratchy bedding, cold floors, ...
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Note added at 10 hrs (2019-02-22 06:33:36 GMT)
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With the extra context provided by others, then yes, it does sound like this is just a general comment as to the comfort level — I suspect they are using it in the same way we might say 'boutique hotel', but this is a lower category — and one may assume there is also 'budget hotel', for example.
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philgoddard
: I think the implication is that it's not five stars, but you'll still enjoy your stay. I think it's a perfectly reasonable thing to say.
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Thanks, Phil! Leaves aside the question of the Curious Capitalization.
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AllegroTrans
: I checked the web for the second of the hotels in asker's text and didn't see a hotel chain name
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Thanks, C! Leaves aside the question of the Curious Capitalization.
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Björn Vrooman
: "Modern comfortable hotel in Watford" https://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/united-kingdom/hilton-watf... ...and many more. Why would it be non-native? // See discussion. I think you and Allegro are onto something here.
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Because of the way it is expressed, and the use of capitals.
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three star hotel
(it is not so much what it says, but rather what it doesn't say (as a descriptor for the hotel)) - they use a vague meaningless word, so that it can't be said that they are misrepresenting the hotel standard.
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to be clear, that it is a three star hotel (or three and a half star hotel) doesn't mean that it isn't a nice hotel. Many three star hotels are super nice (they simply may not have a wide range of facilities or fanciness.)
Discussion
So, we both agree with Allegro and it seems I wasn't that far off. It is an ENS source doc and while there is indeed more than one hotel category, there is more to it than just hotels.
This is also why I stand by my statement that you shouldn't try to ask for a general explanation of the word "comfortable." E.g., this is important:
"Do note that what is actually meant by basic/standard/comfortable can vary significantly depending on the country concerned"
For example, I know that when we travelled like 10 or 20 years ago (I'm sure it's not any different nowadays), you had to remember a three-star hotel in a Mediterranean country could mostly not be compared to one in Germany. And that isn't some kind of criticism or slight, but the definition of what constituted a three-star hotel in one of those countries was just a bit different from what you were used to in middle Europe.
I think it'd be better the asker looks for these kinds of descriptions by hotel chains or travel agencies in his native country.
Best wishes
KEY TO ACCOMMODATION: We indicate in the itinerary what type of accommodation is provided on each day. The descriptions are guidelines only and are used to give an idea of the accommodation offered, rather than an exact description.
CH Comfortable Hotel, Lodge or Gite - twin rooms with en suite facilities, reliable electricity and water supply, good service and some added amenities.
SH Standard Hotel, Lodge or Gite - no-frills hotel, usually with twin rooms and en suite facilities. Service and amenities are generally adequate.
BH Basic Hotel, Lodge or Gite, Mountain Hut, Village House - can be communal, often consisting of just a bed and shared facilities. Bed linen not normally provided. Running water, toilets and electricity may be inconsistent or non-existent. Cleanliness is not always assured.
See some similar trip notes:
13 nights comfortable hotels
https://www.exodus.co.uk/tripnotes/auu/20016
For comparison, this one uses both standard and comfortable hotels:
9 nights comfortable hotels, 5 nights standard hotels all en suite
https://www.exodus.co.uk/tripnotes/muca/20014
and this one uses comfortable and premium hotels:
11 nights in comfortable hotels and eco-lodges (some Premium)
https://www.exodus.co.uk/tripnotes/wup/10452
"Comfortable hotel (7 nights), Guesthouse (2 nights), Manor house (1 night)"
https://www.imaginative-traveller.com/trips/uncover-northern...
And this one:
"Comfortable hotel (7 nights),Cruise ship (3 nights),Overnight sleeper train (1 night)"
https://www.imaginative-traveller.com/index.php?app=tripmana...
As Allegro said, it's most likely a "....classification used by the company..."
There's only one hit for "Basic Hotel" on that site, so I'm not sure making this all about hotels is really that accurate.
Best
"12 nights hotels, all en suite, and 1 night homestay"
Thereafter, either
"Huong Sen Hotel or similar, Comfortable Hotel"
"Chau Pho Hotel or similar, Comfortable Hotel"
or
"Mekong Guest House or similar, Homestay"
https://www.imaginative-traveller.com/index.php?app=tripmana...
This one is a UK(!) company, btw.
And another UK company advertising a trip to Mongolia:
https://www.lowcostdeals.co.uk/tour/cycling-in-mongolia-4883...
Here; it's between Sleeper Train, Wild Camping and Comfortable Hotel (capitalized each time). That's not really a "hotel" category but rather denotes the type of accommodations (accommodation for the UK).
Agree with Allegro that it must be defined somewhere; both UK links have asterisks next to the words, but I can't find the definition. Though, I doubt asking for the meaning of comfortable will help much.
Best wishes
Allegro, I googled the second bit of the query. I think basically, you're right.
Plus, I believe there is some error in the text. Have a look at this page from Costa Rica:
http://amphoratravel.com/product/costa-ricas-coastal-secrets...
It always goes like this:
"Accommodation: Presidente Hotel or Country Inn and Suites (or similar)"
"Accommodation: Pachira Lodge (or similar)"
"Savegre Hotel, Nature Reserve & Spa (or similar)"
Only once(!), it reads:
"Villa Florencia or similar (Comfortable Hotel)"
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Or maybe if this is from a holiday brochure listing many resorts/hotels it's a classification used by the company - and perhaps it's defined somewhere in the brochure