Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
les titres et pièces enregistrées
English translation:
submitted proofs of entitlement and documents
Added to glossary by
Michael Meskers
Mar 17, 2017 23:17
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Hi all -
I am translating a legal document in which arbitrator-rapporteur has been engaged.
I am not sure how to translate this phrase:
les titres et pièces enregistrées
Here is the context where he writes:
Ma mission étant d'entendre les Parties, de me faire représenter les titres et pièces enregistrées conformément à la loi, les concilier si faire se peut, sinon rédiger sur papier titré un rapport...
Thanks for your help!
I am translating a legal document in which arbitrator-rapporteur has been engaged.
I am not sure how to translate this phrase:
les titres et pièces enregistrées
Here is the context where he writes:
Ma mission étant d'entendre les Parties, de me faire représenter les titres et pièces enregistrées conformément à la loi, les concilier si faire se peut, sinon rédiger sur papier titré un rapport...
Thanks for your help!
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Proposed translations
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submitted proofs of entitlement and documents
it's a one-fit-all formula used for centuries in ANY case involving "un arbitre-rapporteur"
pièces enregistrées = pièces enregistrées à la greffe du tribunal
this "arbiter" can only work with what was submitted by the litigants
un titre = in the wider possible meaning: proof of entitlement
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pièces enregistrées au greffe du tribunal
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context: this is obviously about all various documents that are part of the case, so they would have to be have been submitted by one party or another?
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... so they would have to have been submitted by one party or another?
pièces enregistrées = pièces enregistrées à la greffe du tribunal
this "arbiter" can only work with what was submitted by the litigants
un titre = in the wider possible meaning: proof of entitlement
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pièces enregistrées au greffe du tribunal
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context: this is obviously about all various documents that are part of the case, so they would have to be have been submitted by one party or another?
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Note added at 49 days (2017-05-06 13:05:13 GMT) Post-grading
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... so they would have to have been submitted by one party or another?
Note from asker:
| I think your answer - and especially given your explanation , is excellent. Due to privacy and copyright concerns I have not been at liberty to give much more context - so apologies on that score. I can say this much: this case involved here is not at all recent. therefore your term, having been accepted and used for a long time is no doubt apt. Thanks again! Michael |
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: I would even omit 'of entitlement'// no, I was thinking of "proofs and documents"
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than just "titles"? Thanks!
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ph-b (X)
: 'submitted' for enregistrées? (and just for info: greffe is masculine, i.e. au greffe)
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pièces enregistrées au greffe du tribunal - given the context and that this is a general clause repeated in all sort of cases where else could it be "registered"??? in the land registry, register of vehicles, of airplanes, of ships,of nurses ..??
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Francois Boye
: Do you know that patents have vouchers? https://www.bing.com/search?q=Patent Voucher&form=PRLNCS&pc=...
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these are patents that are about e-vouchers NOT vouchers for a patent or as a part of a patent - can't see that anywhere ... // and anyway HERE the most general term is needed.
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Comment: "Grand merci de nouveau!"
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Without more context, this would be my best shot.
Or "equities".
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Or "equities".
Are you able to provide any more context?
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French term (edited):
titres et pièces enregistrées
recorded deeds and documents
If titres refers to property, real estate, etc. as in titres de propriété
For ex.
Deed or Document Recording - Registrar General's Department ...
https://www.bahamas.gov.bs/.../Deed or Document Rec...
Bahamians can register their deeds and other legal documents at the Deeds and Documents Registry at the Registrar General's Department. This Section ...
Searching Documents Online | Jackson County, MO
www.jacksongov.org/323/Searching-Documents-Online
The Recorder of Deeds Department is your public library of publicly-recorded documents. Instead of books our electronic and microfilm inventories consist of ...
Recorded Documents
https://de.uslandrecords.com/
Registry of Deeds Overview... Documents related to the ownership of real estate within the district are recorded at the Registry of Deeds. Recorded documents ...
Register of Deeds > Home
rd.ingham.org/
The fee for recording documents in the Register of Deeds Office will be $30.00 regardless of the number of pages...
Real estate recording information | Hennepin County
www.hennepin.us/residents/.../real-estate-recording-informa...
Establish property records and record real estate transactions within Hennepin County. ... The most commonly recorded documents are mortgages, deeds, ...
Document Recording - Milwaukee County
county.milwaukee.gov/DocumentRecording9847.htm
Traduire cette page
Register of Deeds ›; Document Recording ... Documents are recorded in Room 103 in the Milwaukee County Courthouse between 8:00 AM and 4:30 PM, ...
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Or, taking into account the context you provided,
deeds and documents recorded under the law OR legally recorded deeds and documents
For ex.
PROPERTY CODE CHAPTER 12. RECORDING OF INSTRUMENTS
www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PR/htm/PR.12.htm
the original was properly executed and recorded under the law governing ...
7-4-2613. Documents subject to recording.
leg.mt.gov/bills/mca/7/4/7-4-2613.htm
(a) (i) subject to subsection (1)(a)(ii), deeds, grants, transfers, certified copies of final ... of law or rule relating to eligibility for recording of the deed, contract for deed, ... (2) Any instrument that qualifies for recording under this section may ...
Michigan Legislature - Section 565.201
https://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject...
565.201 Requirements for recording with register of deeds. ... (6) If a mortgage meets all requirements for recording under this act and a copy of the mortgage is ...
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Or, bearing in mind Daryo’s point below
deeds and documents recorded under the law (as previously) / deeds and recorded documents
if enregistrées refers only to pièces.
For ex.
Deed or Document Recording - Registrar General's Department ...
https://www.bahamas.gov.bs/.../Deed or Document Rec...
Bahamians can register their deeds and other legal documents at the Deeds and Documents Registry at the Registrar General's Department. This Section ...
Searching Documents Online | Jackson County, MO
www.jacksongov.org/323/Searching-Documents-Online
The Recorder of Deeds Department is your public library of publicly-recorded documents. Instead of books our electronic and microfilm inventories consist of ...
Recorded Documents
https://de.uslandrecords.com/
Registry of Deeds Overview... Documents related to the ownership of real estate within the district are recorded at the Registry of Deeds. Recorded documents ...
Register of Deeds > Home
rd.ingham.org/
The fee for recording documents in the Register of Deeds Office will be $30.00 regardless of the number of pages...
Real estate recording information | Hennepin County
www.hennepin.us/residents/.../real-estate-recording-informa...
Establish property records and record real estate transactions within Hennepin County. ... The most commonly recorded documents are mortgages, deeds, ...
Document Recording - Milwaukee County
county.milwaukee.gov/DocumentRecording9847.htm
Traduire cette page
Register of Deeds ›; Document Recording ... Documents are recorded in Room 103 in the Milwaukee County Courthouse between 8:00 AM and 4:30 PM, ...
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Note added at 7 hrs (2017-03-18 06:21:06 GMT)
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Or, taking into account the context you provided,
deeds and documents recorded under the law OR legally recorded deeds and documents
For ex.
PROPERTY CODE CHAPTER 12. RECORDING OF INSTRUMENTS
www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PR/htm/PR.12.htm
the original was properly executed and recorded under the law governing ...
7-4-2613. Documents subject to recording.
leg.mt.gov/bills/mca/7/4/7-4-2613.htm
(a) (i) subject to subsection (1)(a)(ii), deeds, grants, transfers, certified copies of final ... of law or rule relating to eligibility for recording of the deed, contract for deed, ... (2) Any instrument that qualifies for recording under this section may ...
Michigan Legislature - Section 565.201
https://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject...
565.201 Requirements for recording with register of deeds. ... (6) If a mortgage meets all requirements for recording under this act and a copy of the mortgage is ...
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Or, bearing in mind Daryo’s point below
deeds and documents recorded under the law (as previously) / deeds and recorded documents
if enregistrées refers only to pièces.
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: les titres et pièces enregistrées => seules les "pièces" sont enregistrées [sauf erreur dans le texte original ...]// given the context, the only "registry" that I can see as making sense is "le greffe du tribunal"
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Sauf s'il y a une erreur dans le texte source, comme vous l'évoquez, ou si l'auteur a utilisé la règle (?) dite de proximité. Merci.
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AllegroTrans
: "deeds" implies transfers of land or other specific formalities: I think this is simply about the documents submitted in a legal case whuch has gone to arbitration
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Indeed, now that we have more background info.
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vouchers and documents put on record
pièce (definition in French)
) Écrit, document servant à établir un droit, à prouver la réalité d'un fait ou l'existence d'une chose. Pièce justificative, officielle; pièce fausse, à charge; pièce jointe; pièces d'identité; vérifier les pièces; classer les pièces d'un dossier. Quelque rassurant que fût cette bonne et honnête réponse, ma grand'mère n'en persista pas moins à se munir des pièces qui pouvaient lui laisser l'espoir de rompre le mariage (Sand, Hist. vie, t.2, 1855, p.99).Nous avons confiance dans Sarrien qui pense qu'on peut condamner un homme sans lui montrer les pièces qui l'accusent (Clemenceau, Vers réparation, 1899, p.93).
Voucher = piece of evidence or proof.
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/voucher
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Patents have vouchers: see the attachment below.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Patent Voucher&form=PRLNCS&pc=...
) Écrit, document servant à établir un droit, à prouver la réalité d'un fait ou l'existence d'une chose. Pièce justificative, officielle; pièce fausse, à charge; pièce jointe; pièces d'identité; vérifier les pièces; classer les pièces d'un dossier. Quelque rassurant que fût cette bonne et honnête réponse, ma grand'mère n'en persista pas moins à se munir des pièces qui pouvaient lui laisser l'espoir de rompre le mariage (Sand, Hist. vie, t.2, 1855, p.99).Nous avons confiance dans Sarrien qui pense qu'on peut condamner un homme sans lui montrer les pièces qui l'accusent (Clemenceau, Vers réparation, 1899, p.93).
Voucher = piece of evidence or proof.
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/voucher
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Patents have vouchers: see the attachment below.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Patent Voucher&form=PRLNCS&pc=...
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: Voucher = piece of evidence or proof? never saw it used that way https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Voucher
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see above
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AllegroTrans
: "voucher" as evidence of expenditure? I don't think so here// just because this is in one dictionary doesn't mean EN-spkg lawyers use the term in this way; the fact is, they DON'T
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/voucher
US English is not British English
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Discussion
can be found in archived documents dating even more than two and half centuries ago, so the most general / wide meaning for "titres" and "pièces enregistrées" should be assumed, as it's applied to all sorts of cases involving "un arbitre-rapporteur"
what is annoying is that you can find "les titres et pièces enregistrées" as well as "les titres et pièces enregistrés" (which you would expect to be correct).