Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

túmulos con tragaluz

English translation:

skylight tumuli

Added to glossary by Wendy Streitparth
Jan 13, 2017 10:42
7 yrs ago
Spanish term

túmulos con tragaluz

Spanish to English Other Archaeology Burial mounds
Sin embargo, en los lugares más elevados y con un horizonte más despajado (y por tanto un mejor celaje), se encuentra un tipo especial de túmulo con unas características muy sugerentes ya que tienen un pequeño ventanuco o tragaluz en uno de sus lados, que en muchas ocasiones estaba cerrado por una gran piedra que podía ser retirada en caso de necesidad.
Este ventanuco es demasiado pequeño como para permitir el acceso de una persona y por ello, a esta clase de monumentos se les conoce como ******************** “túmulos con tragaluz”.

These buriarl mounds are found in the Maghreb and date back to the 8th Century BC.
Change log

Jan 17, 2017 16:02: Wendy Streitparth Created KOG entry

Discussion

Charles Davis Jan 13, 2017:
skylight The term "skylight tumuli", coined by the Spanish archaeologists who investigated the site (Foum al Rjam in Morocco), has been adopted by other archaeologists in this context, most notably by Michael A. Hoskin, Emeritus Professor of History and Philosophy of Science at Cambridge University, in his Tombs, Temples and their Orientations (2001), 210-11, 258:
https://books.google.es/books?redir_esc=y&id=jz5oAAAAMAAJ&fo...
Ellen Kraus Jan 13, 2017:
I´ve finally come across the term "light boxes", yet it refers to passage moulds only. Nonetheless it could be useful in the present case:
At present there are only four (possibly five), known examples of 'light-boxes', all in European megalithic structures (passage-mounds). Their design permits a focused beam of light from prominent celestial objects such as the sun and moon, to enter the chamber at specific times of their cycles. The most famous of these is at Newgrange in Ireland, where the light-box allows the suns rays to pass along the passage into the heart of the mound on the winter-solstice sunrise, (and possibly, one of the major lunar stand-stills - to be confirmed)...
Wendy Streitparth Jan 13, 2017:
Could it be a light well?
Ellen Kraus Jan 13, 2017:
I have also come across the term Roof-box, strangely enough however, reserved to Irish burial sites, only.
Lorna O'Donoghue (asker) Jan 13, 2017:
Roof box Some megalithic tombs aligned with solstices etc in Ireland have window-like openings called roof boxes. I wonder would this be the correct term ... any confirms/suggestions would be much appreciated.

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skylight tumuli

skylight tumuli
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=kt9DIY1g9HYC&pg=PA182&lp...

Whilst Foum al Rjam includes basically standard cairns and skylight tumuli....
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_quer...

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Tombs of this type are called skylight tumuli because they have a small skylight (for unknown purposes, but too small to give access to human beings) that is sometimes closed by a large, flat stone..
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_quer...
Peer comment(s):

agree Charles Davis : I was about to post this. Some might object that these authors who coined this term are Spanish and not native English speakers, but the same term is used by Michael Hoskin, Emeritus Professor at Cambridge, so I think it can be regarded as mainstream.
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Well, if you were about to post, one can probably be happy that it's reasonably OK. Thanks!
agree patinba
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Thanks, patinba
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for all the contributions and suggestions. I went with skylight tumuli in the end as it appears to be the term used by archaeologists discussing this particular site."
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Tumuli (burial mounds) with (hidden) hatch

Anglo-Saxon burial mounds refers to the burial mounds - also known as barrows or tumuli - that ... 580 AD,

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but there is also the term ROOF-BOX (or roofbox) especially in ancient Irish burial sites.

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and the following link is not convincing enough to justify the high confidence Level I indicated in my answer:
www.catalhoyuk.com:8080/archive_reports/1999/ar99_03.html
A total of 18 burials were excavated, 13 infants and neonates mostly in ... The remaining unexcavated depth to the base of the mound which had to be ..... too small for human traffic and therefore possibly serving as a hatch. .... Barely large enough for a person to slide through, its function may have served as a type of hatch

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another possibility could be "Tumuli with Light boxes" in line with my latest discussion entry.

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and:
"At Newgrange, the light-box is used along with other construction features (such as the passage narrowing and undulating along it length and a subtle increase in altitude towards the centre), which combine to focus the rays of the sun along the passage into a small, narrow beam of light, which is visible for only a few minutes on a few days around the winter solstice. As well as illustrating the astronomical nature of the structure, the inclusion of such a specific set of designs highlights the importance of accuracy to the builders.
'Light-Boxes':
Light-Boxes are a construction feature specific to European passage-mounds.

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