May 1, 2013 13:07
11 yrs ago
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French term
production (here)
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Tourism & Travel
hotels
This is used in the context of describing the work of banqueting staff and facilities in a hotel. Two of the staff are described as 'chefs de cuisines production'.
Could this be translated as 'head of the kitchen production teams', or are they just 'chefs in the hotel kitchens', maybe?
The term also occurs when describing banquets:
'Pour l’occasion, 12 500 pièces de pâtisserie, 5 000 brochettes, 3 500 pièces de poissons, crevettes et huîtres… ont été produites par les cuisines production.
Preuve de la formidable réactivité du département des banquets.'
Could this be translated as 'head of the kitchen production teams', or are they just 'chefs in the hotel kitchens', maybe?
The term also occurs when describing banquets:
'Pour l’occasion, 12 500 pièces de pâtisserie, 5 000 brochettes, 3 500 pièces de poissons, crevettes et huîtres… ont été produites par les cuisines production.
Preuve de la formidable réactivité du département des banquets.'
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +3 | production kitchen |
Victoria Britten
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| 5 -2 | chef of the kitchen production team |
Patricia Urrutia
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| 4 -1 | chief cook |
Louis Gwiango
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Proposed translations
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16 mins
Victoria Britten
France
France
Native in English
France
Tracking the right turn of phrase
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: French to English, English, French
French term (edited):
cuisine production
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production kitchen
See this:
http://www.catering-glossary.com/p/production-kitchen/
Seems a good possibility in a big hotel such as this, which might well contract out initial preparation and only cook or reheat and serve on the premises.
(Good old Google!)
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Note added at 19 mins (2013-05-01 13:26:26 GMT)
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Sorry, this would not be contracted out in the context you give but it still seems not implausible that there might be more than one stage involved, depending on the layout of the hotel and its facilities.
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Note added at 55 mins (2013-05-01 14:03:02 GMT)
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I'm not a specialist, but pastry in particular requires certain equipment and it seems not unlikely that the brochettes and seafood bits might have been produced in a different kitchen with other facilities.
http://www.catering-glossary.com/p/production-kitchen/
Seems a good possibility in a big hotel such as this, which might well contract out initial preparation and only cook or reheat and serve on the premises.
(Good old Google!)
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Note added at 19 mins (2013-05-01 13:26:26 GMT)
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Sorry, this would not be contracted out in the context you give but it still seems not implausible that there might be more than one stage involved, depending on the layout of the hotel and its facilities.
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Note added at 55 mins (2013-05-01 14:03:02 GMT)
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I'm not a specialist, but pastry in particular requires certain equipment and it seems not unlikely that the brochettes and seafood bits might have been produced in a different kitchen with other facilities.
Note from asker:
| They do specify, at one point, that they make everything from scratch out of fresh produce. Would this contradict the term 'production kitchen'? |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you very much, Victoria"
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21 mins
Patricia Urrutia
Colombia
Colombia
Specializes in field
Colombia
Linguist/translator/interpreter
Native in: Spanish (Variant: Colombian) 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 3 more.
chef of the kitchen production team
You can leave it as you put it. It is a good translation.
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: This wouldn't sound natural in EN; a chef might be 'in' / 'on' the team, but not 'of' it (makes it sound as if you think s/he is in charge). No, there are 2 of them, so unlikely to be the head of anything; and it's a prod. kitchen, not kitchen production.
36 mins
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So the only thing you desagree with is the use of the preposition? is the word chef OK? the text makes me think he/she is the chief of cuisin production. In fact that is what the text means to say.
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B D Finch
: Agree with Tony's comment above.//I think that linguists would generally agree that prepositions matter. "Chef" does not equal "chief" here (there are two of them).
19 hrs
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The only thing you object is the use of the preposition? According to the text he/she is the chief of kitchen production. That is what the asker intents to say.
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53 mins
Louis Gwiango
Cameroon
Cameroon
Native in French
&
English
Specializes in field
Cameroon
Unmatched translations!
Native in: English , French
Works in: French to English, English to French
chief cook
The source uses many words to express a simple concept in English. One should not be tied down to the meanings of the constituent words.
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Note added at 58 mins (2013-05-01 14:05:27 GMT)
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A chief cook oversees the production of food at times right from the purchase or harvest of raw foodstuff to when it is prepared in the kitchen.
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Note added at 58 mins (2013-05-01 14:05:27 GMT)
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A chief cook oversees the production of food at times right from the purchase or harvest of raw foodstuff to when it is prepared in the kitchen.
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Tony M
: That might be 'chef de cuisine', but as we know there are 2 people who are both 'chefs' in the 'production kitchen', I think it is unlikely they are both 'chief cooks'. In any case, where a hierarchy is involved, we'd more usually talk about 'head chef'.
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