Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
Darle a toro pasado a los vencidos la razón
English translation:
agree with the defeated when there’s nothing to lose
Added to glossary by
Mercedes Rizzuti
Mar 17, 2010 21:47
14 yrs ago
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Spanish term
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Darle a toro pasado a los vencidos la razón
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
Philosophy
More philsophy from hell.
I am afraid my bullfighting knowledge is not up to snuff for this reference:
"Darle a toro pasado a los vencidos la razón, y “hacerles justicia” al menos en la conmemoración de las cenizas, sería para Hegel algo así como repetir de manera ridícula la locura de los que iban contra el movimiento histórico."
The rough draft:
Allowing the vanquished to be right and “doing justice to them”, at least in the commemoration of their ashes, would be for Hegel something akin to absurdly repeating the madness of those who went against the historic movement
I am afraid my bullfighting knowledge is not up to snuff for this reference:
"Darle a toro pasado a los vencidos la razón, y “hacerles justicia” al menos en la conmemoración de las cenizas, sería para Hegel algo así como repetir de manera ridícula la locura de los que iban contra el movimiento histórico."
The rough draft:
Allowing the vanquished to be right and “doing justice to them”, at least in the commemoration of their ashes, would be for Hegel something akin to absurdly repeating the madness of those who went against the historic movement
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Mar 22, 2010 11:36: Mercedes Rizzuti Created KOG entry
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agree with the defeated when there’s nothing to lose
"A toro pasado" is a way to say that someone is pretending to act over some topic that has already been solved previously. I’d go with “ agree with the defeated when there’s nothing to lose, just to bring them some justice at least in the...“. May be my translation doesn't work for you, but this link might be useful anyway, take a look at it: http://culturitalia.uibk.ac.at/hispanoteca/Vokabular/Toros/f...
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David Hollywood
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Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
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very free again but might spark off some ideas :)
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very free again but might spark off some ideas :)
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Admitting the defeated were right when the damage is already done
Vaya "peazo" de texto que te has pillado! :)
Yo traduciría "a toro pasado" de una manera un poco más informal, y lo pondría de la siguiente forma:
"Admitting the defeated were right when the damage is already done, and "doing them justice" at least by commemorating the ashed, would be for Hegel... "
Yo traduciría "a toro pasado" de una manera un poco más informal, y lo pondría de la siguiente forma:
"Admitting the defeated were right when the damage is already done, and "doing them justice" at least by commemorating the ashed, would be for Hegel... "
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In retrospect, it`s easy to say the vanquished were right
MODISMOS a toro pasado: with hindsight, in retrospect http://dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/toro bravo
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To stick as closely as possible to the original text, one could say "Saying in hindsight (or in retrospect) that the vanquished were right..."
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or "admitting" instead of "saying"...
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Note added at 11 hrs (2010-03-18 09:36:45 GMT)
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To stick as closely as possible to the original text, one could say "Saying in hindsight (or in retrospect) that the vanquished were right..."
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Note added at 11 hrs (2010-03-18 09:37:14 GMT)
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or "admitting" instead of "saying"...
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