Mar 15, 2010 16:25
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Spanish term

sin excusas

Spanish to English Social Sciences Philosophy
More from my philsophy from hell paper. TIA!!!


Would this be "the unapologetic author" or the "author with no excuse", or perhaps a third possibility I haven't considered?


Dios le pregunta al primer Agricultor por el paradero del primer Ganadero: ¿Dónde está Abel? La respuesta de Caín no es una respuesta: ¿Acaso soy yo el guardián de mi hermano? Obviamente, tendría que haber reconocido, ante el Omnisciente, pero también ante sí mismo, la autoría del homicidio: Abel está muerto, lo he matado yo. Y acaso luego buscarse un buen abogado defensor en busca de atenuantes, acaso por la vía de la apelación a celos extremos incontrolables. Pero lo primero es responder a la pregunta “¿quién lo hizo?” con “yo lo hice”. La responsabilidad como autoría sin excusas es un principio básico de la filosofía moral.

Discussion

Rosa Paredes Mar 16, 2010:
@asker El autor de un hecho es en inglés 'perpetrator' whcih means "person responsible for". If you absolutely need to keep the word 'autoría' in your translation, you'll have to rephrase the entire sentence.
Rosa Paredes Mar 16, 2010:
@jim and asker Por supuesto que autoría no es 'author' and the term 'authorship' refers specifically to the rights and liabilities of an author so that if you use 'authorship', no need to mention responsibility.
Jim Tucker (X) Mar 15, 2010:
authorship is OK, Ben, if the context establishes it in the meaning of "responsibility" or "state of having committed an action." You can go with it. Then "responsibility as authorship without excuses."
Jim Tucker (X) Mar 15, 2010:
autoría is not "author"

Proposed translations

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Spanish term (edited): autoría sin excusas
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absolute responsibility

You don't need to translate responsabilidad.

Absolute responsibility is a fundamental principle of moral philosophy.

i.e. no wiggle words.

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Note added at 9 mins (2010-03-15 16:35:18 GMT)
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autoría literally = "accepting something as your own" , hence "responsibility"

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Note added at 11 mins (2010-03-15 16:37:23 GMT)
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also "unqualified responsibility"
Note from asker:
ALthough your version is much better, I think the "authorship" bit needs to be in there, she refers to it again and again - as in "the author of the action is responsible". Just not sure how to do it without making muck.
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agree liz askew
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agree Fiona Kirton
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without any excuse

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Peer comment(s):

agree Leonardo Lamarche : agree.
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Thanks, Leonardo.
neutral Jim Tucker (X) : OK, but if you want to keep the original phrasing, then "with no excuses"(i.e. that would involve mitigating responsibility)// I think the basis is the phrase "to make excuses", hence the plural.
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I don't agree at all with your comment regarding "mitigating responsibility". "With no excuses" means EXACTLY the same as "without any excuse". I see absolutely no reason here for a "neutral"!
agree baligh
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Thanks, baligh.
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with no excuse

I'd say the sentence as follows: "full responsibility for authorship with no excuse is ....".
Peer comment(s):

neutral Jim Tucker (X) : It's "responsabilidad *as* autoría" -- but this sense of "authorship" ( as "auctoritas" or responsibility) has largely disappeared from English.
9 mins
Thanks, Jim. Though literally the translation would be "as", I don't think it applies in this case.
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no excuses

by common usage
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7 hrs

accountability

No literal translation.
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with no extenuating circumstances

Yo pienso que "sin excusas" aquí tiene el sentido de "sin atenuantes"
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