Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
navires-poubelles
English translation:
rust buckets
Added to glossary by
LJC (X)
Dec 3, 2002 19:40
21 yrs ago
French term
"navires-poubelles"
Non-PRO
French to English
Other
Transport / Transportation / Shipping
Shipping
This is referring to ships that are in a dangerous condition, aren’t maintained properly, and don’t comply with the safety regulations. We’re talking oil tankers and such.
Any ideas for an English (UK) equivalent? ‘dustbin ships’ sounds awful to me, and ‘junk ships’ sounds like, well, a Chinese junk. I’ve also thought of ‘rust bucket’, which I quite like, or something with ‘tub’ instead of ‘ship’.
Any ideas for an English (UK) equivalent? ‘dustbin ships’ sounds awful to me, and ‘junk ships’ sounds like, well, a Chinese junk. I’ve also thought of ‘rust bucket’, which I quite like, or something with ‘tub’ instead of ‘ship’.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 +17 | rust buckets |
Yolanda Broad
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| 5 +1 | floating dustbins |
mckinnc
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| 3 +3 | floating wrecks |
1964
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| 5 +1 | garbage dumps |
Peter Bagney
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| 4 | floating dustbins |
Francis MARC
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Proposed translations
+17
8 mins
Yolanda Broad
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Fren & Span to Eng, a ProZ Pro!
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
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4
Selected
rust buckets
Found this bilingual site, that give "navires poubelles" along with "rust buckets," so you're not the only one who's thought of this!
... que certains spécialistes de la grande bleue appellent "rust buckets"(seaux ... leurs côtes encore davantage un vrai dépotoir des navires poubelles (l'exemple ...
www.ulb.ac.be/students/es/times/Instant1.html
... que certains spécialistes de la grande bleue appellent "rust buckets"(seaux ... leurs côtes encore davantage un vrai dépotoir des navires poubelles (l'exemple ...
www.ulb.ac.be/students/es/times/Instant1.html
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you ALL. Although I quite like floating dustbins too, I'm going along with the general consensus as it seems to be an established term for UK English."
+1
4 mins
floating dustbins
Is what I occurred to me and then I found this instance of someone else using it, presumably having picked up Chirac's phrase the other day about the Prestige
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Note added at 2002-12-03 20:31:02 (GMT)
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This maintains the image that not only are they unseaworthy but that they are full of rubbish
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Oops, sorry. I just realised that I hadn\'t added the example of this expression that I mentioned above. Here it is now:
Why aging oil tankers still ply the seas | csmonitor.com - [ Traduire cette page ]
... both national and European political leaders to implement measures that fight against
the leniency that allows the increase in use of these floating dustbins.\". ...
www.csmonitor.com/2002/1121/p01s01-woeu.html - 60k - 2 déc 2002
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Note added at 2002-12-03 20:31:02 (GMT)
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This maintains the image that not only are they unseaworthy but that they are full of rubbish
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Note added at 2002-12-03 20:32:36 (GMT)
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Oops, sorry. I just realised that I hadn\'t added the example of this expression that I mentioned above. Here it is now:
Why aging oil tankers still ply the seas | csmonitor.com - [ Traduire cette page ]
... both national and European political leaders to implement measures that fight against
the leniency that allows the increase in use of these floating dustbins.\". ...
www.csmonitor.com/2002/1121/p01s01-woeu.html - 60k - 2 déc 2002
Peer comment(s):
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EDLING (X)
4 mins
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| agree |
Red Cat Studios
9 mins
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| disagree |
Bourth (X)
: see below
1 hr
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6 mins
floating dustbins
many such references on Internet
Guardian Unlimited | Special reports | Special report: waste and ... - [ Traduire cette page ]
... Fears of a new tanker disaster November 29: Estonia resists pressure to prevent
ship described as 'floating dustbin' following route of doomed Prestige. ...
www.guardian.co.uk/waste/0,12188,747275,00.html - 68k - 2 déc 2002 - En cache - Pages similaires
AM - 2/12/2002: More oil washes up on Spanish coast - [ Traduire cette page ]
... MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: The Prestige, a single hulled tanker dubbed a floating dustbin
by the French President Jacques Chirac, broke up and sank two hundred and ...
www.abc.net.au/am/s738784.htm - 11k - 2 déc 2002 - En cache - Pages similaires
European Transport Workers' Federation, ETF, European transport ... - [ Traduire cette page ]
... The Ievoli Sun has been described as a "floating dustbin", yet Shell was allowed
to charter it to transport highly toxic substances which are now destined in ...
www.itf.org.uk/ETF/e031100.htm -
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SORRY, I didn\'t see the answer from Colin. I leave mine as you can use the back-up references
Guardian Unlimited | Special reports | Special report: waste and ... - [ Traduire cette page ]
... Fears of a new tanker disaster November 29: Estonia resists pressure to prevent
ship described as 'floating dustbin' following route of doomed Prestige. ...
www.guardian.co.uk/waste/0,12188,747275,00.html - 68k - 2 déc 2002 - En cache - Pages similaires
AM - 2/12/2002: More oil washes up on Spanish coast - [ Traduire cette page ]
... MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: The Prestige, a single hulled tanker dubbed a floating dustbin
by the French President Jacques Chirac, broke up and sank two hundred and ...
www.abc.net.au/am/s738784.htm - 11k - 2 déc 2002 - En cache - Pages similaires
European Transport Workers' Federation, ETF, European transport ... - [ Traduire cette page ]
... The Ievoli Sun has been described as a "floating dustbin", yet Shell was allowed
to charter it to transport highly toxic substances which are now destined in ...
www.itf.org.uk/ETF/e031100.htm -
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Note added at 2002-12-03 19:49:31 (GMT)
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SORRY, I didn\'t see the answer from Colin. I leave mine as you can use the back-up references
Peer comment(s):
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Red Cat Studios
6 mins
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Bourth (X)
: The English terms used are translated from the F. by unthinking journalists. "Rust bucket" is far more idiomatic and conveys more urgently - with "rust" - the risk of imminent shipwreck.
1 hr
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I didn't pretend to give the academic term, just the one that is intensively used in fact
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+3
23 mins
floating wrecks
foating wrecks
Peer comment(s):
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NancyLynn
1 hr
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Thanks
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| agree |
Yolanda Broad
: nice solution
2 hrs
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Thanks
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| agree |
Louise Dupont (X)
6 hrs
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Thanks
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+1
2 hrs
Peter Bagney
Spain
Spain
Works in field
Spain
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, French to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
garbage dumps
THis version is also in current use.
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They're derided as "environmental time bombs" and "floating garbage dumps." Yet more than half the world's 10,000 oil tankers are the old-style, single-hulled variety despite outcries after every disastrous spill, from the 1989 Exxon Valdez in pristine Alaska to this week's sinking of the Prestige off the verdant coast of Spain.***********
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They're derided as "environmental time bombs" and "floating garbage dumps." Yet more than half the world's 10,000 oil tankers are the old-style, single-hulled variety despite outcries after every disastrous spill, from the 1989 Exxon Valdez in pristine Alaska to this week's sinking of the Prestige off the verdant coast of Spain.***********
Peer comment(s):
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Christopher Crockett
: The Valdez was hardly the first "disasterous spill," just the worst and most publicised off the U.S. coast. So far.
16 hrs
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