French term
couronne
L’activité s’est maintenue comparativement à 2007 sur la 1ère et 2nde couronne. Le retrait du placement sur Paris peut s’expliquer par 2 facteurs, soit par manque d’offres sur certains arrondissements, notamment à l’Est de la capitale, soit par réticence des entreprises à se positionner sur des immeubles à loyer élevé, dans le contexte actuel.
Does this refer to the 'arrondissements'?
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4 +1 | first and second suburban ring | Ellen Kraus |
4 +1 | "banlieue" areas | Christophe G. |
3 +1 | ring | trebla |
4 | periphery | kashew |
4 | (Paris) proper vs. suburbs (of Paris) | Clayton Causey |
Wikipedia explanation | Rob Grayson |
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Non-PRO (3): writeaway, Rob Grayson, SJLD
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Proposed translations
first and second suburban ring
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Note added at 14 Min. (2009-02-16 13:18:27 GMT)
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It is not only used for population shifts but also for shifts in business:
Population Shifts Intensify from Montréal to its Suburban Ring. Québec, February 1, 2005 - Today the Institut de la statistique du Québec (ISQ) released new ...
www.stat.gouv.qc.ca/salle-presse/communiq/2005/fevrier/fevr... - 11k
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"banlieue" areas
La petite couronne [modifier]
Carte représentant Paris et les trois départements de la petite couronne
La petite couronne est la zone constituée des trois départements limitrophes de la ville de Paris : les Hauts-de-Seine (92), la Seine-Saint-Denis (93) et le Val-de-Marne (94). Elle a été urbanisée dès la fin du XIXe siècle et se caractérise par une très forte densité de population : elle atteint 10 000 habitants/km² dans les Hauts-de-Seine, soit plus que la majorité des centres-villes de la plupart des métropoles mondiales (pour exemple, Queens possède 8 000 habitants/km²). En outre, cette zone possède d'importantes fonctions de commandement, en particulier le quartier de La Défense. Par conséquent, si elle est administrativement considérée comme une banlieue, elle tend de plus en plus à être, sur le plan réel, une véritable expansion du centre ville.
La petite couronne, c'est 123 communes, et donc aussi 123 mairies indépendantes les unes des autres.
La grande couronne [modifier]
La grande couronne est l'ensemble des quatre départements périphériques de l'Île-de-France, non limitrophes de Paris. Elle se constitue de : la Seine-et-Marne (77), les Yvelines (78), l'Essonne (91) et le Val-d'Oise (95).
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Charles Hawtrey (X)
: Or 'inner' and 'outer' suburbs
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Exactly! Thanks, Charles!
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SJLD
: yes, although I wouldn't call the grande couronne outer suburbs - I have a house in Essonne and it's definitely not suburban!
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Fair enough :-) Thanks!
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Valerie SYKES
: I disagree with the use of 'banlieu areas'. 1) It wouldn't be understood by most non-French speakers. 2) 'Banlieu' has a negative image - it makes people think of Paris' deprived crime-ridden high-rise council estates where there are high rates of crime.
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Just for the record I never meant for the translation to be "banlieue area", was just explaining what "couronnes" refer to, this is how I understood the question. I should've made it clear straight away but was trying to be quick.
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periphery
Maybe also relevant: Out-of-Centre - a location that is separated from a town centre but is not necessarily outside the built-up area.
(Paris) proper vs. suburbs (of Paris)
2nde couronne = the suburbs of Paris/Paris suburbs
Reference comments
Wikipedia explanation
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petite_couronne#La_petite_couro...
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writeaway
: yeah, the same old story-seek and ye shall find
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Christophe G.
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Thanks, Chris
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Jenn Mercer
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Thanks, Jenn
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