Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
antirefettorio
English translation:
ante-refectory
Added to glossary by
Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
Oct 5, 2008 11:42
15 yrs ago
Italian term
francevigo (X)
antirefettorio
Italian to English
Other
Architecture
architecture
in a list of places, such as refectory, library
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +6 | ante-refectory |
Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
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| 5 +1 | refectory ante-room [or lobby, vestibule, etc.] |
Tom in London
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| 3 +1 | refectory ante-chamber |
Rachel Fell
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References
| anti / ante |
Alessandra Renna
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Change log
Oct 19, 2008 05:04: Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
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ante-refectory
semplicemente
In Italiano è di uso comune 'anti' piuttosto che 'ante', non significa necessariamente 'ignoranza'..antipasto, anticamera, antibagno...
who are we to judge the level of education? or anything else..
In Italiano è di uso comune 'anti' piuttosto che 'ante', non significa necessariamente 'ignoranza'..antipasto, anticamera, antibagno...
who are we to judge the level of education? or anything else..
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Tom in London
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Architecture, design, technical, etc.
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refectory ante-room [or lobby, vestibule, etc.]
it's a common mistake, among the not very highly educated, to write "anti" instead of "ante". as in this case :)
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any type of "ante" room is "the room you go through before entering the main room"
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it makes me laugh.... an "antirefettorio" in this context would be a man who is ideologically opposed to the entire concept of refectories. An honest and accurate translation would be hilarious.
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Note added at 3 mins (2008-10-05 11:45:48 GMT)
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any type of "ante" room is "the room you go through before entering the main room"
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Note added at 5 mins (2008-10-05 11:47:44 GMT)
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it makes me laugh.... an "antirefettorio" in this context would be a man who is ideologically opposed to the entire concept of refectories. An honest and accurate translation would be hilarious.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Science451
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| neutral |
Alessandra Renna
: for space also t he very highly educated Italian prefer anti to ante (see an Italian dictionary).
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Rachel Fell
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Works in: French to English, Spanish to English, Italian to English, and 4 more.
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refectory ante-chamber
library [etc.] ante-chamber
another suggestion -
Authentic Sicily - Google Books Result
by Touring Club of Italy - 2005 - Travel - 248 pages
... Monastery entrance — »• Library entrance 1 Monumental staircase 2 Neo-Gothic cloister 3 Marble fountain 4 Refectory ante-chamber 5 Large refectory 6 Old ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=8836534031...
Greater Medieval Houses of England and Wales, 1300-1500 - Google Books Result
by Anthony Emery - 1996 - Architecture, Domestic
It ran to the outer porch (blocked entry) which became in effect an ante-chamber bay in stone with mullioned windows of three and four lights (now the outer ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0521581311...
[PDF]
The Carthusian Monastic Order
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Upstairs a small ante-chamber contains a statue of. the Virgin Mary, before which the monk recites an ... serves as his bedroom, refectory, and study with ...
www.shef.ac.uk/architecture/main/gallery/gal/diploma/studio... -
another suggestion -
Authentic Sicily - Google Books Result
by Touring Club of Italy - 2005 - Travel - 248 pages
... Monastery entrance — »• Library entrance 1 Monumental staircase 2 Neo-Gothic cloister 3 Marble fountain 4 Refectory ante-chamber 5 Large refectory 6 Old ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=8836534031...
Greater Medieval Houses of England and Wales, 1300-1500 - Google Books Result
by Anthony Emery - 1996 - Architecture, Domestic
It ran to the outer porch (blocked entry) which became in effect an ante-chamber bay in stone with mullioned windows of three and four lights (now the outer ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0521581311...
[PDF]
The Carthusian Monastic Order
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Upstairs a small ante-chamber contains a statue of. the Virgin Mary, before which the monk recites an ... serves as his bedroom, refectory, and study with ...
www.shef.ac.uk/architecture/main/gallery/gal/diploma/studio... -
Reference comments
1 hr
Reference:
anti / ante
àn|ti–
pref., indica precedenza nel tempo e nello spazio | con valore spaziale si premette a sostantivi:
anticamera, anticucina | con valore temporale si premette a sostantivi e aggettivi: antidiluviano, antivigilia; è raro davanti a verbi: antidatare, antivenire
àn|te–
pref., indica precedenza nel tempo e, più raramente, nello spazio, in parole di origine latina e di formazione italiana; con il valore di “avanti nel tempo” si premette a sostantivi e aggettivi:
antebellico, anteguerra, antelunare, anteprandiale | con i valori di “davanti, parte anteriore” si premette produttivamente a sostantivi della terminologia scientifica | di origine latina sono sostantivi e aggettivi come antefissa, antemurale, verbi e aggettivi deverbali come antecedere, antedetto, anteporre
(De Mauro)
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Note added at 2 ore (2008-10-05 13:43:26 GMT)
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Il prefisso anti- in Italiano può provenire dal Latino ante- o dal Greco antì-. A seconda dell'origine latina o greca il prefisso assume diverso significato.
Prefissi di tipo spazio-temporale
Ante-, anti-, pre-
Ante- e anti- derivano dal latino ANTE- “davanti” indicano perciò qualcosa che viene prima di qualcos’altro
(ante-guerra, anti-pasto, ecc.). Pre- deriva dal latino PRE- “davanti”, ha un significato simile ad ante- (pre-
bellico).
Contro-, contra-, anti-
Contro- e contra- derivano dal latino CONTRA, mentre anti- deriva dal greco antì “contro”. Indicano
opposizione, antagonismo. Contro-corrente, contra-ccolpo, anti-droga, anti-allergico
http://www.insegnareitaliano.it/documenti/Laboratorio docent...
pref., indica precedenza nel tempo e nello spazio | con valore spaziale si premette a sostantivi:
anticamera, anticucina | con valore temporale si premette a sostantivi e aggettivi: antidiluviano, antivigilia; è raro davanti a verbi: antidatare, antivenire
àn|te–
pref., indica precedenza nel tempo e, più raramente, nello spazio, in parole di origine latina e di formazione italiana; con il valore di “avanti nel tempo” si premette a sostantivi e aggettivi:
antebellico, anteguerra, antelunare, anteprandiale | con i valori di “davanti, parte anteriore” si premette produttivamente a sostantivi della terminologia scientifica | di origine latina sono sostantivi e aggettivi come antefissa, antemurale, verbi e aggettivi deverbali come antecedere, antedetto, anteporre
(De Mauro)
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Note added at 2 ore (2008-10-05 13:43:26 GMT)
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Il prefisso anti- in Italiano può provenire dal Latino ante- o dal Greco antì-. A seconda dell'origine latina o greca il prefisso assume diverso significato.
Prefissi di tipo spazio-temporale
Ante-, anti-, pre-
Ante- e anti- derivano dal latino ANTE- “davanti” indicano perciò qualcosa che viene prima di qualcos’altro
(ante-guerra, anti-pasto, ecc.). Pre- deriva dal latino PRE- “davanti”, ha un significato simile ad ante- (pre-
bellico).
Contro-, contra-, anti-
Contro- e contra- derivano dal latino CONTRA, mentre anti- deriva dal greco antì “contro”. Indicano
opposizione, antagonismo. Contro-corrente, contra-ccolpo, anti-droga, anti-allergico
http://www.insegnareitaliano.it/documenti/Laboratorio docent...
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