Mar 30, 2008 16:14
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realizarea obiectului social
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Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
Următoarele situaţii duc la dizolvarea societăţii:
- imposibilitatea realizării obiectului social
Vă mulţumesc anticipat
- imposibilitatea realizării obiectului social
Vă mulţumesc anticipat
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Peter Shortall
United Kingdom
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to fulfil the purpose of its business
Am întâlnit o formulare foarte asemănătoare într-un act constitutiv pe care l-am tradus recent, şi anume:
"imposibilitatea realizării obiectivelor Societăţii"
Prin urmare, "social" cred că înseamnă "aparţinând societăţii comerciale", conform şi acestei definiţii din DEX online:
SOCIÁL, -Ă adj. (...) 4. Care aparţine unei societăţi comerciale.
http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=social
În engleză însă, "social" nu are acest sens, referându-se mai degrabă la întreaga societate a unei ţări (adică, la populaţie) şi nu la o societate comercială. La noi unele societăţi comerciale au aşa-numite programe CSR (Corporate Social Responsibility), dar în acest caz "social" înseamnă că firma vrea să "give something back to the community" (adică, să facă ceva în interesul populaţiei, ca să-şi amelioreze imaginea). Prin urmare, dacă aş vedea "social" într-un context de genul ăsta, aş înţelege că e vorba de obiective filantropice, ecologice sau aşa ceva.
Cred că ai putea reda sensul printr-o formulare de genul:
"the Company becomes unable to fulfil the purpose of its business"
"it becomes impossible for the Company to achieve its (business) objective(s)"
etc.
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referIndu-se, scuze.
"imposibilitatea realizării obiectivelor Societăţii"
Prin urmare, "social" cred că înseamnă "aparţinând societăţii comerciale", conform şi acestei definiţii din DEX online:
SOCIÁL, -Ă adj. (...) 4. Care aparţine unei societăţi comerciale.
http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=social
În engleză însă, "social" nu are acest sens, referându-se mai degrabă la întreaga societate a unei ţări (adică, la populaţie) şi nu la o societate comercială. La noi unele societăţi comerciale au aşa-numite programe CSR (Corporate Social Responsibility), dar în acest caz "social" înseamnă că firma vrea să "give something back to the community" (adică, să facă ceva în interesul populaţiei, ca să-şi amelioreze imaginea). Prin urmare, dacă aş vedea "social" într-un context de genul ăsta, aş înţelege că e vorba de obiective filantropice, ecologice sau aşa ceva.
Cred că ai putea reda sensul printr-o formulare de genul:
"the Company becomes unable to fulfil the purpose of its business"
"it becomes impossible for the Company to achieve its (business) objective(s)"
etc.
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referIndu-se, scuze.
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Georgiana Vasilescu (X)
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Mulţumesc, Georgiana!
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Mihaela Ghiuzeli
: Maybe Peter. "achieve its objective is already taken" (LOL)
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Mulţumesc, Mihaela! :)
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Rose Marie Matei (X)
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Mulţumesc, Rose!
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RODICA CIOBANU
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Mulţumesc, Rodica!
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Cristiana Coblis
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Mulţumesc, Cristiana!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "mulţumesc!"
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Mihaela Bordea
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inability to meet/fulfill the social scope
obiectul social = obiectul de activitate care in general se traduce prin social scope
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wordbridge
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Not Just Words...
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failure to meet the social objectives
o idee....
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Mihaela Ghiuzeli
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failure to reach the social objectives
Care e contextul ?
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pe baza contextului, cred ca ar merge.
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"inability to reach...."
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Ar merge si "goal" dar tu stii mai bine care este contextul mai larg.
"inability/failure to reach social objective/goals"
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pe baza contextului, cred ca ar merge.
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Note added at 12 mins (2008-03-30 16:26:49 GMT)
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"inability to reach...."
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-03-30 17:18:39 GMT)
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Ar merge si "goal" dar tu stii mai bine care este contextul mai larg.
"inability/failure to reach social objective/goals"
Note from asker:
| Mulţumesc, Mihaela! Am uitat să adaug că este vorba despre o societate comercială. |
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Mihaela Brooks
Canada
Canada
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PRECISION at PREFERENTIAL TARIFF RATES
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4
disappearance of substratum=it hasa become impossible for the comp. to achieve its object
The courts have, in the exercise of their powers under the "just and equitable" doctrine, made it abundantly clear that each case must be determined on its own facts. There emerge from the cases four situations in which the "just and equitable" rule will be applied:
• ***disappearance of substratum***: this involves a failure of the fundamental objectives of the corporation. The cases fall into three categories:
• the subject matter of the company is gone,
• the object for which it was incorporated has substantially failed, or
• it is impossible to carry on the business of the corporation except for at a loss;
• justifiable lack of confidence in the management of the corporation;
• deadlock; and
http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=4818
acum citez din cartea ENTREPENEURIAL LAW-butterworths 1993 h.s. cilliers pg. 4030 winding-up company
"where it becomes impossible for a company to achieve its object because the foundation or SUBSTRATUM of the company dissapeared, it is just and equitable that the company be wound up so that the a member can..."
" the failure of the substratum of the company is established by proof that it has become impossible for the company to achieve its object".
observ ca in Romania este tradus asa...dar in terminologia business law engleza terminologia este alta
17. DISSOLUTION
The company is dissolute by
a.) Expiry of the company duration
b.) ***Impossibility of achieving its objet of activity****
c.) Declaration of the company's nullity
d.) Decision of the General Assembly
http://www.companysetup.ro/ro/en_ver/srl.html#7
• ***disappearance of substratum***: this involves a failure of the fundamental objectives of the corporation. The cases fall into three categories:
• the subject matter of the company is gone,
• the object for which it was incorporated has substantially failed, or
• it is impossible to carry on the business of the corporation except for at a loss;
• justifiable lack of confidence in the management of the corporation;
• deadlock; and
http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=4818
acum citez din cartea ENTREPENEURIAL LAW-butterworths 1993 h.s. cilliers pg. 4030 winding-up company
"where it becomes impossible for a company to achieve its object because the foundation or SUBSTRATUM of the company dissapeared, it is just and equitable that the company be wound up so that the a member can..."
" the failure of the substratum of the company is established by proof that it has become impossible for the company to achieve its object".
observ ca in Romania este tradus asa...dar in terminologia business law engleza terminologia este alta
17. DISSOLUTION
The company is dissolute by
a.) Expiry of the company duration
b.) ***Impossibility of achieving its objet of activity****
c.) Declaration of the company's nullity
d.) Decision of the General Assembly
http://www.companysetup.ro/ro/en_ver/srl.html#7
Discussion
- imposibilitatea realizării obiectului social
- hotărârea Adunării generale a acţionarilor
- faliment
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