Arabic term
Yemen
مكنته من نفسي
Jun 25, 2007 02:18: Ahmad Batiran changed "Language pair" from "Arabic to English" to "English to Arabic"
Jun 25, 2007 02:19: Ahmad Batiran changed "Language pair" from "English to Arabic" to "Arabic to English"
Jun 25, 2007 02:19: Ahmad Batiran changed "Field (specific)" from "Poetry & Literature" to "Religion"
Non-PRO (1): Mustafa Fadhel
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Proposed translations
United Kingdom
More than translation!
Native in: Arabic 
, English
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English, Arabic, and 1 more.
Egypt
Quality communicates you with Arab world
Native in: Arabic (Variants: Egyptian, Syrian, UAE, Jordanian, Kuwaiti, Standard-Arabian (MSA), Saudi ) 
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English, German to Arabic
I gave my body for him
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Note added at 7 mins (2007-06-23 19:28:34 GMT)
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to commit adultery or gave my body to him
روى الكليني عن أبي عبد الله أن امرأة جاءت إلى عمر بن الخطاب فقالت: (إني زنيت، فأمر أن ترجم، فأخبر أمير المؤمنين فقال: كيف زنيت؟
فقالت: مررت بالبادية فأصابني عطش شديد فاستسقيت أعرابياً فأبى إلا إن مكنته من نفسي، فلما أجهدني العطش وخفت على نفسي سقاني فأمكنته من نفسي، فقال أمير المؤمنين: تزويج ورب الكعبة).
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Ahmad Batiran
: http://www.alhawali.com/index.cfm?method=home.showFahras&id=... أولا: استشهادك بنص مِن لغة المصدر دون ترجمة لا داعي له لأنه واضح، ثانيا: الكليني لا يروي عنه أحد من أهل السنة أنظر الرابط، أسأل عن هذا الحديث و أين هو رجاءاً
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أخي العزيز، أنا على علم بأن الكليني لا يروي عنه أحد من أهل السنة، لأن النص يتحدث عن الشيعة وهذا أمر لا يدي لي فيه، بإمكانك سؤال السائل أو السائلة وشكرا
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I let him have his way with me
http://www.answers.com/topic/have-one-s-way-with
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Yvette Neisser Moreno
: Yes, this is very good.
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Ahmad Batiran
: " This usage is nearly always used of a man trying to get a woman to have sex" this meaning or usage goes with him saying راودتها عن نفسها...once he has what he wants, he reaches the end of the way; that end should be translated, I think سمحت له بمراودتها
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1. The expression I suggest is not gender-specific. 2. The part you copied from the definition in Answers.com applies to "have one's way with," not to the full expression I suggest, i.e., "I let him have his way with me" (meaning "I allowed him to etc.").
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Nesrin
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Awad Balaish
: I agree that "let" is better than "enable" in this context .
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Hani Hassaan
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Dikran
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United States
Command several languages simultaneously
Native in: Urdu , Arabic
Works in: Arabic to English, English to Arabic, English to Urdu, and 7 more.
I by myself empowered him.
مكنته من نفسي = I equipped him or gave him by myself
I empowered him by myself. The English equivalent (United States)
Saudi Arabia
Translation is an informative profission
Native in: Arabic
Works in: Arabic to English, English to Arabic
I was froced (compelled) by thirst to enabled him over my body
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Note added at 12 hrs (2007-06-24 07:56:19 GMT)
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In response to Yvette Neisser Moreno note, here are 2 suggestions although Yvette did not give any correction.
1- I enabled him to use my body.
2- I enabled him having sex with me.
This is understandable from the Arabic phrase, the asker also made it clear in his response to Fuad Yahya.
I was about to suggest "having sex with me” but changed my mind thinking that would it be offensive. Arab people in general very sensitive to sexual words, I would say that is what came over me before posting my answer.
Dear Yvette, now I hope you will not disagree with “come over me"
Have you ever heard native English speaker saying (I do not know what come over me" (said after a wave of anger)
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Mustafa Fadhel
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Thank you Mustafa Fadhel
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zkt
: compelled (or forced) by thirst, I enabled him over my body
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Thank you zkt
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Saleh Ayyub
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Thank you Saleh Ayyub. I have not seen you here for ages, hope every thing is OK.
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Yvette Neisser Moreno
: Forgive me, I am a native English speaker and I can't follow the English you've suggested here--"enabled him over my body"?
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I should be grateful to you if you amend or correct my translation. "enabled him over my body", since you are native English speaker, what is the correct substitute for it?
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Yemen
Where Accuracy Matters
Native in: Arabic (Variants: Palestinian, Yemeni, Tunisian, Moroccan, Lebanese, Kuwaiti, Syrian, Algerian, UAE, Sudanese, Jordanian, Saudi , Standard-Arabian (MSA), Libyan, Iraqi, Egyptian)
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English, Arabic, and 1 more.
she gave herself to me (illegally)
http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=0&Rec=533...
و هي على لسان الرجل لا المرأة، و لم أقع على ترجمتها كما عند البخاري رحمه الله، و في رواية لمسلم رحمه الله، و جدت الحديث بلفظ مُغاير، الرابطان أدناه مِن حديثه
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Apart from which 'Hadeeth' this phrase is taken from, though it was clearly mentioned by the Asker, and for any one who wants to learn about the whole context (the being translated book), kindly look it up here:
http://www.almeshkat.net/books/open.php?cat=10&book=14
I think that the Asker simply came to the 'hadeeth' that was later quoted by Hani, and since the other Hadeeths are more known by Muslims (especially Sunni), the Asker wanted to make it easier for us and mentioned them later on in the comments.
The difference between the Sahih Hadeeth of ahl-sunnah and the other 'hadeeth' you are translating is the audience that I am trying to explain to Fuad and other colleagues.
>> To the Asker: please notice that the difference between both types of the very phrase (though it is one in Arabic) is what I marked between two brackets (illegally).
Your quotation is from al-Kullini and it shall be:
"... I gave him myself [_marked by_] (legally)"
...since this is the purpose of the story to prove Mut'aah. If you get what I am trying to say, of course, you find any more suitable OR NEUTRAL translation; however, keep it simple.
My translation is for the Hadeeth in al-Bukhari (rahimahu Allaah!).
Thank you for every body! No need for warnings before finishing the discussion, especially if you are participating in the post!
http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=1&Rec=6342
http://hadith.al-islam.com/bayan/display.asp?Lang=eng&ID=1568
I tempted him
Egypt
Never lost for words!
Native in: Arabic
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English, Italian to Arabic, and 4 more.
Discussion
Now, if any of you guys has the translation of Riyaadus-Saliheen, you'll find a hadeeth known as حديث الصخرة a part of it goes like: "إنه كانت لي ابنة عم,كنت أحبها أشد ما يحب الرجال النساء...." I rememer مكنتني من نفسها was in this hadeeth. so please check it out for me.