liz askew Jun 11, 2007:

Oh well, I'm glad you got there in the end, and you've given us some interesting observations! "stubborness", yes, but I prefer to call it "determination, persistence and sheer b.....-mindedness!!:-) Glad you got the job off OK.

Rachel Fell Jun 10, 2007:

thorough understanding of the anatomy that produces
the aortic-pulmonary, aortic-pulmonic window and preaortic recess reflectionshttp://www.thoracicimaging.com/pt/re/jti/pdfhandler.00005382...

Dr Sue Levy (X) Jun 10, 2007:

And another... aortic-pulmonic window - apparently written by native English speaker http://radiology.rsnajnls.org/cgi/content/abstract/116/3/513

Karin and Folke Nettelblad (Folia Textproduktion HB) (asker) Jun 10, 2007:

Read all the comments through now after dinner, and I must say that Liz' quote above is striking - the right meaning also in English. Whats' more, by googling at "aortic-pulmonary window" -septal -congenital, I found quite many more hits where it is used in this meaning (and not just a translation from French). So it seems that the term has two different meanings in English as well. QUite confusing, Remains to find out what to use in Swedish ...

Dr Sue Levy (X) Jun 10, 2007:

Here's another http://www.med.ucla.edu/modules/wfsection/article.php?articl...

liz askew Jun 10, 2007:

Oh well, you'll need a French native speaker who is an expert on this subject then. Best of luck to you!

Karin and Folke Nettelblad (Folia Textproduktion HB) (asker) Jun 10, 2007:

No, to be honest, it's quite clear that it is used in two different senses. E.g. my text is a CAT scan report, and if this man had indeed a congenital malformation, that would have been presented in another way than just mentioning it en passant in this way. http://titan.medhyg.ch/mh/formation/article.php3?sid=30964 is another example, where it is used in the sense of an anatomical region.

liz askew Jun 10, 2007:

If my interpretation is correct, you were confused in thinking that there were two separate meanings in French for the term about which you are asking.

liz askew Jun 10, 2007:

So, from my understanding they are one and the same thing i.e. aorto-pulmonary window and aorto-pulmonary septal defect...
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:JIDbmAXiRZ4J:www.emedic...

liz askew Jun 10, 2007:

I haven't had a proper look, but it is quite possible that some of the sites you have looked at are mis-translations of the French term. See the difference:

Chirurgie de la fenêtre aortopulmonaire


Résumé - Résumé + Références - Texte intégral - Texte pdf -
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Techniques chirurgicales - Thorax [42-765]




Sylvain Chauvaud : Chirurgien des Hôpitaux
Hôpital européen Georges-Pompidou, département de chirurgie cardiovasculaire, 20, rue Leblanc, 75015 Paris France
Clinique Ambroise-Paré, service de chirurgie cardiaque, 27, boulevard Victor-Hugo, 92200 Neuilly sur Seine France




Résumé


La fenêtre aortopulmonaire est une anomalie rare, dans laquelle l'aorte et l'artère pulmonaire sont en communication directe dans leur partie intrapéricardique. La septalisation des formes simples et isolées est facile et les résultats sont bons. L'association avec des anomalies de l'arc aortique alourdit la mortalité opératoire et le pronostic.


http://www.chu-rouen.fr/ssf/pathol/communicationaortopulmona...



Synonyme(s) MeSH : Communication aorto-pulmonaire ; Communications aortopulmonaires ; Fenêtre aortico-pulmonaire ; Fenêtre aorticopulmonaire ; Fistule aorto-pulmonaire ; Fistule aortopulmonaire ; Malformation du septum aortico-pulmonaire ; Malformation du septum aorticopulmonaire .

liz askew Jun 10, 2007:

Forget my last comment, but not my quote..."clinical presentation"..

Marilyn Amouyal Jun 10, 2007:

I understand your problem. Try googling with CT scan and "lung window", or "thoracic window" and you will get more relevant hits.

liz askew Jun 10, 2007:

It is an anatomical structure..

liz askew Jun 10, 2007:

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:Om0Pdtq6fXoJ:myweb.lsbu...


Clinical presentation:
A recent immigrant to the UK with night sweats and cough.
This view is unrotated. There is a soft tissue density on the left side of the mediastinum, projected over the left hilum with its centre of radius over the aorto-pulmonary window, that is, above the centre of radius of the left main pulmonary artery and deduced from the highest visible margin of the vessels of the left hilum. No pulmonary consolidation is visible.

Karin and Folke Nettelblad (Folia Textproduktion HB) (asker) Jun 10, 2007:

Context Oops. Just noticed that I forgot to quote my text: "Adénopathies médiastinales péri-centimétriques para-trachéales droites, de la fenêtre aorto-pulmonaire et sous carinaire".

Also, to further elaborate on my first sentence: I have already checked "aortopulmonary window" but as far as I can see it is only used to mean a septal defect between the major vessels. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Rachel Fell Jun 10, 2007:

Hi Folke - so this is what it isn't, is it? http://www.med.yale.edu/intmed/cardio/chd/e_ao_pulm_wndw/ind...

Marilyn Amouyal Jun 10, 2007:

If the context is imaging, the term is window.