Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
perspectives mussoliniennes
English translation:
grandiose vistas
Added to glossary by
Anna Maria Augustine (X)
Aug 11, 2005 12:54
18 yrs ago
French term
perspectives mussoliniennes
French to English
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I really don't know what to make of this term which seems very strange. Is it something to do with pre war dictator architecture?
Any help appreciated.
Le monde de xxx prend racine dans ses voyages. Dunes sahariennes, icebergs arctiques, perspectives mussoliniennes, gratte-ciel new-yorkais… Fasciné, il retranscrit ses visions dans ses créations et magnifie ainsi le monde en images idéales.
Any help appreciated.
Le monde de xxx prend racine dans ses voyages. Dunes sahariennes, icebergs arctiques, perspectives mussoliniennes, gratte-ciel new-yorkais… Fasciné, il retranscrit ses visions dans ses créations et magnifie ainsi le monde en images idéales.
Proposed translations
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3 +1 | grandiose vistas |
Nick Lingris
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3 +5 | Mussolini-style perspectives |
suezen
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3 +2 | Mussolini-style architecture |
Paige Stanton (X)
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5 | mussolini line of fashion or see after |
Corinne Bono
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3 | Mussolinian perspectives |
Flo in London
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Proposed translations
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grandiose vistas
Or something in that vein, perhaps. Someone is certain to improve on this.
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Note added at 11 hrs 34 mins (2005-08-12 00:28:57 GMT)
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If you wish to retain Mussolini in there, an adjective that has not been mentioned is Mussoliniesque. -esque is a suffix often used in art, as in from arabesque to grotesque.
Steering clear of \'perspectives\', I would say \'Moussoliniesque architecture\'.
Web example: at a Mussoliniesque marble building of massive proportions
Another adjective that would give the same feeling is pharaonic.
Architecture of pharaonic proportions.
Reminds one of Ozymandias. But I\'m diverging. That would be taking you to a totally different continent and era.
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Note added at 11 hrs 34 mins (2005-08-12 00:28:57 GMT)
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If you wish to retain Mussolini in there, an adjective that has not been mentioned is Mussoliniesque. -esque is a suffix often used in art, as in from arabesque to grotesque.
Steering clear of \'perspectives\', I would say \'Moussoliniesque architecture\'.
Web example: at a Mussoliniesque marble building of massive proportions
Another adjective that would give the same feeling is pharaonic.
Architecture of pharaonic proportions.
Reminds one of Ozymandias. But I\'m diverging. That would be taking you to a totally different continent and era.
Peer comment(s):
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Advance Communication
: grandiose vistas/perspectives in the Mussolin vein (?)
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Though perhaps in context it loses its ambiguity, I thought I'd steer clear of perspectives. As Mussolini also had other perspectives in mind.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "My sincere thanks to everyone's contributions. I do know that the ultimate goal was to destroy all sense of freedom and liberty for women. Dictators always do that."
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French term (edited):
perspectives mussoliniennes: Sorry, URGENT again
Mussolini-style perspectives
The following links may help you find what you're looking for
laboiteaimages.hautetfort.com/architecture/ - 23k
Part of Mussolini's legacy to Italy is the style of architecture referred to here. Bombastic, exaggeratedly heroic, it mocks the humanity it purports to glorify. It is overpowering, cold and makes you think of the baby sacrificing scenes in biblical movies. Sometimes we build structures like this in our own minds..."
The image 'fascist architecture' came from Italy. It was stuff that was built during Mussolini's period that was a particular style where the buildings are really larger that life and what is supposed to celebrate the greatness of humanity actually dwarfs humanity. And it makes you fell tiny and helpless next to it.
cockburnproject.net/songs&music/fa.html - 6k
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laboiteaimages.hautetfort.com/architecture/ - 23k
cockburnproject.net/songs&music/fa.html
laboiteaimages.hautetfort.com/architecture/ - 23k
Part of Mussolini's legacy to Italy is the style of architecture referred to here. Bombastic, exaggeratedly heroic, it mocks the humanity it purports to glorify. It is overpowering, cold and makes you think of the baby sacrificing scenes in biblical movies. Sometimes we build structures like this in our own minds..."
The image 'fascist architecture' came from Italy. It was stuff that was built during Mussolini's period that was a particular style where the buildings are really larger that life and what is supposed to celebrate the greatness of humanity actually dwarfs humanity. And it makes you fell tiny and helpless next to it.
cockburnproject.net/songs&music/fa.html - 6k
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Note added at 20 mins (2005-08-11 13:15:16 GMT)
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laboiteaimages.hautetfort.com/architecture/ - 23k
cockburnproject.net/songs&music/fa.html
Peer comment(s):
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Jennifer White
: so perhaps Italian fascist architecture? I think it needs something concrete here to tie in with dunes, icebergs, skyscrapers etc.
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It's possible. On the other hand, perspectives is a word commonly used in architecture and is also ambiguous enough to cover other possibilities
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Jane Lamb-Ru (X)
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thanks Jane
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RHELLER
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thanks Rita
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emiledgar
: or Italian fascist architecture/perspectives; stylistically, "Mussolini-style" is weak...
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sporran
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Mussolini-style architecture
Why not use Jim Carroll's description of the Lincoln center in NYC? This solves the problem of using perspectives (which- as was mentioned- is not as concrete as the other descriptors used in the sentence)
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mussolini line of fashion or see after
I've seen this one before, it's all about the vision of femininity decided upon by Mussolini. A bit too much frills perhaps ;-)
I find it ironic to put it beside "gratte-ciel new-yorkais", as Mussolini style fashion was more on the horizontal and buxom and a skyscraper would suggest thin women, close-fitting, "épuré" dresses. A Laurel and Hardy of fashion?
I'd say you can choose to either drop the Mussolini part and go for bombastic or something, or else simply say Mussolini lines of fashion?
Here is a link and an excerpt about the style involved.
Good luck with your work Anna Maria!
The Fascists took up the fashion industry cause as part of their agenda of managing cultural expressions of nation, class and gender in the construction of a New Italy and New Italians. They sought to tie the ruling order to the timeless values of antiquity and the land. The first was embodied in the Golden Age of the Italian Renaissance, the second in the provincial domain of the peasant. The Ideal Woman of Fascism rejected the gender-bending ways of la maschietta (the tomboy), the Italian version of the Roaring '20s flapper. Instead, the New Italian Woman would be the model of femininity as represented by the body-emphasizing cuts of knitted sportswear, and she would accept her place in the patriarchal family, bound up in the hand-tatted lace and embroidered aprons of traditional matronly attire. In 1939, Mussolini himself organized "The Great Parade of the Female Forces," a spectacle of feminine Fascist solidarity that was filmed and then screened around the nation as an Italian version of Leni Reifenstahl's 1934 documentary on Hitler, Triumph of the Will.
My favorite "power meeting" outfit was a Valentino Uomo three-button suit tailored in lustrous black end-on-end-woven silk and wool fabric, which I wore with a charcoal gray shirt and tone-on-tone silver tie, Il Duce style. Mussolini's attempt to use fashion as an ideological and economic weapon is the subject of Eugenia Paulicelli's Fashion under Fascism: Beyond the Black Shirt. In this first-ever study of its kind in English, Paulicelli traces the origins of the modern Italian fashion industry in the ideals of the nation's unification movement and their subsequent cooptation by the Fascist Party in the years leading up to the Second World War.
The role of the Garibaldi of Italian fashion was played by Rosa Genoni. Through her writings and classes, she taught in Milan on fashion theory and history during the first quarter of the 20th century. Genoni proselytized on the need for Italian designers and consumers to declare independence from the domination of French couturiers. The unofficial house organ of the movement to develop a specifically Italian sense of fashion was the magazine Lidel, founded in 1919 with the goal of propagating the ideals of Italian identity and nationhood.
The Fascists took up the fashion industry cause as part of their agenda of managing cultural expressions of nation, class and gender in the construction of a New Italy and New Italians. They sought to tie the ruling order to the timeless values of antiquity and the land. The first was embodied in the Golden Age of the Italian Renaissance, the second in the provincial domain of the peasant. The Ideal Woman of Fascism rejected the gender-bending ways of la maschietta (the tomboy), the Italian version of the Roaring '20s flapper. Instead, the New Italian Woman would be the model of femininity as represented by the body-emphasizing cuts of knitted sportswear, and she would accept her place in the patriarchal family, bound up in the hand-tatted lace and embroidered aprons of traditional matronly attire. In 1939, Mussolini himself organized "The Great Parade of the Female Forces," a spectacle of feminine Fascist solidarity that was filmed and then screened around the nation as an Italian version of Leni Reifenstahl's 1934 documentary on Hitler, Triumph of the Will.
I find it ironic to put it beside "gratte-ciel new-yorkais", as Mussolini style fashion was more on the horizontal and buxom and a skyscraper would suggest thin women, close-fitting, "épuré" dresses. A Laurel and Hardy of fashion?
I'd say you can choose to either drop the Mussolini part and go for bombastic or something, or else simply say Mussolini lines of fashion?
Here is a link and an excerpt about the style involved.
Good luck with your work Anna Maria!
The Fascists took up the fashion industry cause as part of their agenda of managing cultural expressions of nation, class and gender in the construction of a New Italy and New Italians. They sought to tie the ruling order to the timeless values of antiquity and the land. The first was embodied in the Golden Age of the Italian Renaissance, the second in the provincial domain of the peasant. The Ideal Woman of Fascism rejected the gender-bending ways of la maschietta (the tomboy), the Italian version of the Roaring '20s flapper. Instead, the New Italian Woman would be the model of femininity as represented by the body-emphasizing cuts of knitted sportswear, and she would accept her place in the patriarchal family, bound up in the hand-tatted lace and embroidered aprons of traditional matronly attire. In 1939, Mussolini himself organized "The Great Parade of the Female Forces," a spectacle of feminine Fascist solidarity that was filmed and then screened around the nation as an Italian version of Leni Reifenstahl's 1934 documentary on Hitler, Triumph of the Will.
My favorite "power meeting" outfit was a Valentino Uomo three-button suit tailored in lustrous black end-on-end-woven silk and wool fabric, which I wore with a charcoal gray shirt and tone-on-tone silver tie, Il Duce style. Mussolini's attempt to use fashion as an ideological and economic weapon is the subject of Eugenia Paulicelli's Fashion under Fascism: Beyond the Black Shirt. In this first-ever study of its kind in English, Paulicelli traces the origins of the modern Italian fashion industry in the ideals of the nation's unification movement and their subsequent cooptation by the Fascist Party in the years leading up to the Second World War.
The role of the Garibaldi of Italian fashion was played by Rosa Genoni. Through her writings and classes, she taught in Milan on fashion theory and history during the first quarter of the 20th century. Genoni proselytized on the need for Italian designers and consumers to declare independence from the domination of French couturiers. The unofficial house organ of the movement to develop a specifically Italian sense of fashion was the magazine Lidel, founded in 1919 with the goal of propagating the ideals of Italian identity and nationhood.
The Fascists took up the fashion industry cause as part of their agenda of managing cultural expressions of nation, class and gender in the construction of a New Italy and New Italians. They sought to tie the ruling order to the timeless values of antiquity and the land. The first was embodied in the Golden Age of the Italian Renaissance, the second in the provincial domain of the peasant. The Ideal Woman of Fascism rejected the gender-bending ways of la maschietta (the tomboy), the Italian version of the Roaring '20s flapper. Instead, the New Italian Woman would be the model of femininity as represented by the body-emphasizing cuts of knitted sportswear, and she would accept her place in the patriarchal family, bound up in the hand-tatted lace and embroidered aprons of traditional matronly attire. In 1939, Mussolini himself organized "The Great Parade of the Female Forces," a spectacle of feminine Fascist solidarity that was filmed and then screened around the nation as an Italian version of Leni Reifenstahl's 1934 documentary on Hitler, Triumph of the Will.
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Mussolinian perspectives
'I am quite horrified to learn of this link between fashion and dictators/extremists'
I think the author just refers to what he's seen on his travels, and it is true that (whether one likes it or not!) 'Mussolinian style' is striking in its own way (well, that's if you like megalomaniac architecture ;-)
I think the author just refers to what he's seen on his travels, and it is true that (whether one likes it or not!) 'Mussolinian style' is striking in its own way (well, that's if you like megalomaniac architecture ;-)
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