Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Aug 1, 2005 18:18
19 yrs ago
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Portuguese term
autuação
Portuguese to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Na primeira pagina de um processo de divorcio com:
Juizo de direito da comarca de...
Processo no....
Tipo de açao: divorcio direto...
E ao fim da pagina: (a minha duvida) Autuação
Aos.... dias do mes de .... do ano de ..... Neste cartorio a meu cargo autuei o que se segue. E, para constar lavrei este Termo.
Eu, ....escriva, subscrevo
Qual sera a mlhor maneira de traduzir "atuação" e "autuei" Seria Register/ Transcription and registered?
Obrigada! Is
Juizo de direito da comarca de...
Processo no....
Tipo de açao: divorcio direto...
E ao fim da pagina: (a minha duvida) Autuação
Aos.... dias do mes de .... do ano de ..... Neste cartorio a meu cargo autuei o que se segue. E, para constar lavrei este Termo.
Eu, ....escriva, subscrevo
Qual sera a mlhor maneira de traduzir "atuação" e "autuei" Seria Register/ Transcription and registered?
Obrigada! Is
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | docketing |
Amilcar
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| 4 +1 | court record / filed |
Claudia Costa
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| 4 +1 | clerk's certification of entry / entered |
Wm Steinmetz (X)
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| 5 -1 | Type of Divorce [Filed For] |
Jane Lamb-Ru (X)
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Proposed translations
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docketing
This is better (as to usage in the context given) than what I have suggested before (opening of case file, filing documents), even though the meaning is pretty much the same (starting a file / record, adding documents to it).
The meaning of autuação (as it applies to documents) is reunir em processo, juntar a processo.
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Note added at 2 days 1 hr 25 mins (2005-08-03 19:44:05 GMT)
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autuei o que se segue
I docketed the documents herein, or, the following documents
Enter \"docket document\" to Google, if you like
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Note added at 2 days 22 hrs 35 mins (2005-08-04 16:54:11 GMT)
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The thing is getting a lot clearer in my mind.
First, I have been party only to one action in Br (before the Supremo Tribunal Federal), so as to Br I have to go by what dictionaties and common sense tell me.
As to the US I have been party to more civil suits than I can count. There, the first thing the Court (specifically, the clerk\'s office) does after a suit is filed is to docket the action. This means: the action or proceeding is given a \"docket number\"; a physical file is established; the initial documents are \"processed\" and filed, perhaps with their own identifying labels (a process called entering into the record); a judge is assigned (preliminary assignment, usually); copies of documents are distributed as appropriate; and the first action by the judge is scheduled in the court docket. On that date the judge will typically order that the other party, or parties, be notified. The plaintiff does so. At some point the defendant/s will normally enter an appearance, and that gets the ball rolling again, etc. Other documents may later be docketed, but I am not sure this is common terminology in the USA.
Autuação (in the present case) seems to be some initial action by the office of the \"escrivão do tribunal\" (after \"uma acção foi requerida\") along the same lines, probably differing quite a bit in the details, but that is life in translation land.
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I also believe that \"juntar (documentos) ao processo\" is not really a standard use of autuação. I believe the standard meaning is reunir um processo, \"initialize\" the autos (the record of the proceedings). I believe the best translation of autuei depends a great deal on what the escrivão means when she says \"[autuei] o que se segue\".
The meaning of autuação (as it applies to documents) is reunir em processo, juntar a processo.
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Note added at 2 days 1 hr 25 mins (2005-08-03 19:44:05 GMT)
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autuei o que se segue
I docketed the documents herein, or, the following documents
Enter \"docket document\" to Google, if you like
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Note added at 2 days 22 hrs 35 mins (2005-08-04 16:54:11 GMT)
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The thing is getting a lot clearer in my mind.
First, I have been party only to one action in Br (before the Supremo Tribunal Federal), so as to Br I have to go by what dictionaties and common sense tell me.
As to the US I have been party to more civil suits than I can count. There, the first thing the Court (specifically, the clerk\'s office) does after a suit is filed is to docket the action. This means: the action or proceeding is given a \"docket number\"; a physical file is established; the initial documents are \"processed\" and filed, perhaps with their own identifying labels (a process called entering into the record); a judge is assigned (preliminary assignment, usually); copies of documents are distributed as appropriate; and the first action by the judge is scheduled in the court docket. On that date the judge will typically order that the other party, or parties, be notified. The plaintiff does so. At some point the defendant/s will normally enter an appearance, and that gets the ball rolling again, etc. Other documents may later be docketed, but I am not sure this is common terminology in the USA.
Autuação (in the present case) seems to be some initial action by the office of the \"escrivão do tribunal\" (after \"uma acção foi requerida\") along the same lines, probably differing quite a bit in the details, but that is life in translation land.
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Note added at 2 days 22 hrs 44 mins (2005-08-04 17:03:01 GMT)
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I also believe that \"juntar (documentos) ao processo\" is not really a standard use of autuação. I believe the standard meaning is reunir um processo, \"initialize\" the autos (the record of the proceedings). I believe the best translation of autuei depends a great deal on what the escrivão means when she says \"[autuei] o que se segue\".
Peer comment(s):
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Wm Steinmetz (X)
: In reference to the asker's example, "appearance docket" is more accurate for /autuação/ and "I have docketed the following" would be best for /autuei o que se segue/.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "For Canada this was the most useful answer. Thank you to all for the great answers and research, esp. Mr. Steinmetz"
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5 hrs
Claudia Costa
United States
United States
Native in Portuguese
Specializes in field
United States
Translation, Editing, Proofreading, OQA
Native in: Portuguese
Works in: English to Portuguese
Related KudoZ points
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Portuguese term (edited):
autua��o / autuei
court record / filed
Sorry, I clicked the hide the aswer box.
Here is the history of my answers and peers comments.
Thanks.
autuação / autuei court record / filed
http://www.headinjury.com/lawglossary.htm
1. The complete court record of a case. 2. "To file" a paper is to give it to the court clerk for inclusion in the case record. 3. A folder in a law office (of a case, a client, business records, etc.)
www.headinjury.com/lawglossary.htm
HOUAISS:
1) autuação: ato através do qual o escrivão inicia a formação dos autos de um processo, encapando, qualificando e resgistrando o mesmo no tombo geral.
15-15A-3 Definition of terms.
Definition of terms. (1) "Court record" includes any document, information, or other thing that is collected, received or maintained by a clerk of court in ...
legis.state.sd.us/statutes/DisplayStatute. aspx?Type=Statute&Statute=15-15A-3
http://legis.state.sd.us/statutes/DisplayStatute.aspx?Type=S...
PEERS' COMMENTS:
agree Henrique Magalhaes 36 mins
> Obrigada, Henrique! []
agree AdrianaPortas: also: booked, charged 42 mins
> Grata, Adriana! []
disagree Wm Steinmetz: "Court record" é /autos/ (não autuação); e "to file" (ajuizar, promover, etc.) é o que faz a parte litigiosa, não o escrivão. "Booked/charged" nunca, nesta acepção. 1 hr 25 mins
> Agradeço pelas explicações, mas elas não condizem com as definições acima. Tb, to file não quer dizer só ajuizar ou promover ação, mas dar entrada em outros documentos para inclusão no processo. As definições acima são bem elucidativas. []
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TOWN OF BARRINGTON - GOVERNMENT & SERVICES - Town Government
As the Town\'s official record keeper, the Town Clerk filed 45 births, 105 marriages ... As Probate Clerk, the Town Clerk filed 82 estates and attended 17 ...
www.ci.barrington.ri.us/government/gov9.htm -
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Note added at 19 hrs 34 mins (2005-08-02 13:52:57 GMT)
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To file has a lot of meanings. In legal procedures, it has the meaning of \"dar entrada em ação ou documentos\", which is done by the interested party, or the meaning of \"dar entrada no arquivo, fazer inclusão\", which is one of the clerk\'s duties.
Autuação is the court\'s record, is the act of giving a number to a case (lawsuit), which is the identity of that case for all matters.
Autuei means the past act of filing the case or documents into the court\'s records. In this case, to file means to include a case or a document into the record\'s system, a duty performed by the court\'s clerk.
Here is the history of my answers and peers comments.
Thanks.
autuação / autuei court record / filed
http://www.headinjury.com/lawglossary.htm
1. The complete court record of a case. 2. "To file" a paper is to give it to the court clerk for inclusion in the case record. 3. A folder in a law office (of a case, a client, business records, etc.)
www.headinjury.com/lawglossary.htm
HOUAISS:
1) autuação: ato através do qual o escrivão inicia a formação dos autos de um processo, encapando, qualificando e resgistrando o mesmo no tombo geral.
15-15A-3 Definition of terms.
Definition of terms. (1) "Court record" includes any document, information, or other thing that is collected, received or maintained by a clerk of court in ...
legis.state.sd.us/statutes/DisplayStatute. aspx?Type=Statute&Statute=15-15A-3
http://legis.state.sd.us/statutes/DisplayStatute.aspx?Type=S...
PEERS' COMMENTS:
agree Henrique Magalhaes 36 mins
> Obrigada, Henrique! []
agree AdrianaPortas: also: booked, charged 42 mins
> Grata, Adriana! []
disagree Wm Steinmetz: "Court record" é /autos/ (não autuação); e "to file" (ajuizar, promover, etc.) é o que faz a parte litigiosa, não o escrivão. "Booked/charged" nunca, nesta acepção. 1 hr 25 mins
> Agradeço pelas explicações, mas elas não condizem com as definições acima. Tb, to file não quer dizer só ajuizar ou promover ação, mas dar entrada em outros documentos para inclusão no processo. As definições acima são bem elucidativas. []
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Note added at 19 hrs 24 mins (2005-08-02 13:42:56 GMT)
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TOWN OF BARRINGTON - GOVERNMENT & SERVICES - Town Government
As the Town\'s official record keeper, the Town Clerk filed 45 births, 105 marriages ... As Probate Clerk, the Town Clerk filed 82 estates and attended 17 ...
www.ci.barrington.ri.us/government/gov9.htm -
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Note added at 19 hrs 34 mins (2005-08-02 13:52:57 GMT)
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To file has a lot of meanings. In legal procedures, it has the meaning of \"dar entrada em ação ou documentos\", which is done by the interested party, or the meaning of \"dar entrada no arquivo, fazer inclusão\", which is one of the clerk\'s duties.
Autuação is the court\'s record, is the act of giving a number to a case (lawsuit), which is the identity of that case for all matters.
Autuei means the past act of filing the case or documents into the court\'s records. In this case, to file means to include a case or a document into the record\'s system, a duty performed by the court\'s clerk.
Peer comment(s):
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rhandler
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Obrigada, Rhandler!
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Philippe Maillard
: é assim mesmo...
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Grata, PhilippeM!
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Wm Steinmetz (X)
: É engano -- por definição, inclusive pelas acima citadas -- se referir a "to file" como ato do "clerk". Veja que não estamos falando em arquivar documentos em uma pasta qualquer. O termo deve ser traduzido conforme é utilizado na área jurídica.
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danke
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Type of Divorce [Filed For]
expressãi: to file for a divorce. No caso, em inglês não é necessário dizer esse filed for. só si quizer..
Type of Divorce Filed For:
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Note added at 2 hrs 36 mins (2005-08-01 20:55:23 GMT)
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autei+ I filed what follows which I drew up for the record:
assim..:)
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Note added at 2 hrs 38 mins (2005-08-01 20:56:53 GMT)
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Queria dizer acima: expressao com tilde
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Note added at 20 hrs 9 mins (2005-08-02 14:27:52 GMT)
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Tipo de Acção= Type of Filing.....
Type of Divorce Filed For:
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Note added at 2 hrs 36 mins (2005-08-01 20:55:23 GMT)
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autei+ I filed what follows which I drew up for the record:
assim..:)
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Note added at 2 hrs 38 mins (2005-08-01 20:56:53 GMT)
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Queria dizer acima: expressao com tilde
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Note added at 20 hrs 9 mins (2005-08-02 14:27:52 GMT)
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Tipo de Acção= Type of Filing.....
Peer comment(s):
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rhandler
: Type of Divorce is definitely not "autuação".// Why "for heavens sake"? Is your answer a translation for the question? Definitely not! // I read it in full, and I say: type of filing is NOT autuação. I'm a native speaker, besides being a lawyer.
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Amilcar
: I went to the pt dictionaries (recommended), just to be sure I am not losing my mind. Yes they should have the two types of a[c]ção: autu-a[c]ção e heteru-a[c]ção; darn dictionaries are not up to date.
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Portuguese term (edited):
autuação / autuar
clerk's certification of entry / entered
Autuar and autuação são complicadinhos.
No seu exemplo, "autuação" poderia ser traduzida como "clerk's certification of entry (for processing)".
No mesmo exemplo, /autuei o que se segue/ quer dizer "I have entered the following."
(Ver definições em -
Diniz, Maria Helena. /Dicionário Jurídico./ 2. ed. São Paulo: Ed. Saraiva, 2005.)
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Note added at 1 hr 36 mins (2005-08-01 19:54:47 GMT)
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Quando o termo \"autuar\" se refere ao ato de juntar uma peça nova aos autos existentes (não parece ser o caso aqui), em inglês se diz \"to attach\".
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Note added at 1 day 3 hrs 47 mins (2005-08-02 22:05:56 GMT)
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For the asker\'s sake, Claudia\'s insistence prompts me to offer an expanded explanation using back-translations:
The term \"court\'s record\" is not a legal term and is confusingly similar to \"record\" or \"clerk\'s record\", which are legal terms and mean \"autos\" in Portuguese. The record or clerk\'s record does not mean \"autuação\" because it does not refer to the act whereby the clerk enters documents or exhibits into the record nor the clerk\'s certification that this has been done (along with the assigned number).
So it is inaccurate and innovative to say that \"to file means to include a case or a document into the record\'s system [sic], a duty performed by the court\'s clerk [sic]\" because native speakers working in the legal field reserve the word \"to file\" to refer to what the parties do. This meaning is also reflected in generally revered published works such as Black\'s.
Further, we must be extremely careful with internet citations. All the sites that Claudia has cited happen to be correct. But note that while \"headinjury.com\" reflects the correct usage (\"to give it to the court clerk for inclusion in the case record\"), the citation from the Town of Barrington uses the word \"file\" to refer to what is done by a \"town clerk\", which -- like \"city clerk\" -- is a position quite different from a court clerk.
So, in sum, we say that parties \"file\" (or enter) complaints, exhibits, etc. and the (court) clerks \"enter\" them into the record.
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Note added at 2 days 19 hrs 15 mins (2005-08-04 13:34:42 GMT)
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After reading amilcar\'s answer, it might be helpful to note that there are many different kinds of dockets. The one that contains a summary of the action and proceedings is called an \"appearance docket\", but in the US a docket is often a separate schedule of pending cases. In the UK, it is usually a list of judgments (also called a judgment docket).
I do not believe that any of these terms corresponds exactly to the concept of \"autuação\" - which includes entering the actual document and not just making a brief description of it. The Brazilian clerk is attesting to the fact that s/he has actually entered the document, not just briefly describing it, and this is not something that is usually done in common law countries.
But, as usual in legal translation, we must draw parallels for the purpose of understanding, and while the word \"docketing\" is a bit less than what \"autuação\" entails in this example, it is not far off.
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Note added at 2 days 19 hrs 26 mins (2005-08-04 13:45:16 GMT)
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To illustrate this even further, in a back-translation, the precise meaning of \"to docket\" as referred to here would be \"colocar/incluir na pauta\" and not \"autuar\".
No seu exemplo, "autuação" poderia ser traduzida como "clerk's certification of entry (for processing)".
No mesmo exemplo, /autuei o que se segue/ quer dizer "I have entered the following."
(Ver definições em -
Diniz, Maria Helena. /Dicionário Jurídico./ 2. ed. São Paulo: Ed. Saraiva, 2005.)
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Note added at 1 hr 36 mins (2005-08-01 19:54:47 GMT)
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Quando o termo \"autuar\" se refere ao ato de juntar uma peça nova aos autos existentes (não parece ser o caso aqui), em inglês se diz \"to attach\".
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Note added at 1 day 3 hrs 47 mins (2005-08-02 22:05:56 GMT)
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For the asker\'s sake, Claudia\'s insistence prompts me to offer an expanded explanation using back-translations:
The term \"court\'s record\" is not a legal term and is confusingly similar to \"record\" or \"clerk\'s record\", which are legal terms and mean \"autos\" in Portuguese. The record or clerk\'s record does not mean \"autuação\" because it does not refer to the act whereby the clerk enters documents or exhibits into the record nor the clerk\'s certification that this has been done (along with the assigned number).
So it is inaccurate and innovative to say that \"to file means to include a case or a document into the record\'s system [sic], a duty performed by the court\'s clerk [sic]\" because native speakers working in the legal field reserve the word \"to file\" to refer to what the parties do. This meaning is also reflected in generally revered published works such as Black\'s.
Further, we must be extremely careful with internet citations. All the sites that Claudia has cited happen to be correct. But note that while \"headinjury.com\" reflects the correct usage (\"to give it to the court clerk for inclusion in the case record\"), the citation from the Town of Barrington uses the word \"file\" to refer to what is done by a \"town clerk\", which -- like \"city clerk\" -- is a position quite different from a court clerk.
So, in sum, we say that parties \"file\" (or enter) complaints, exhibits, etc. and the (court) clerks \"enter\" them into the record.
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Note added at 2 days 19 hrs 15 mins (2005-08-04 13:34:42 GMT)
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After reading amilcar\'s answer, it might be helpful to note that there are many different kinds of dockets. The one that contains a summary of the action and proceedings is called an \"appearance docket\", but in the US a docket is often a separate schedule of pending cases. In the UK, it is usually a list of judgments (also called a judgment docket).
I do not believe that any of these terms corresponds exactly to the concept of \"autuação\" - which includes entering the actual document and not just making a brief description of it. The Brazilian clerk is attesting to the fact that s/he has actually entered the document, not just briefly describing it, and this is not something that is usually done in common law countries.
But, as usual in legal translation, we must draw parallels for the purpose of understanding, and while the word \"docketing\" is a bit less than what \"autuação\" entails in this example, it is not far off.
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Note added at 2 days 19 hrs 26 mins (2005-08-04 13:45:16 GMT)
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To illustrate this even further, in a back-translation, the precise meaning of \"to docket\" as referred to here would be \"colocar/incluir na pauta\" and not \"autuar\".
Peer comment(s):
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Jane Lamb-Ru (X)
: to amend the record as follows..para o segundo..o primeiro é Type of Divorce Filed: to file for divorce..
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Amilcar
: The reason why one "files" for divorce is ExactlY that the initl petition, plus "everything else" (v.g., a motion), is FILED in the Court record, also called a file. Here there are no courts at all: the thing is being processed in a Notary Public office.
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"initial petition"? "v.g."? Divorces are always processed by a court, both in Brazil and the US. The asker's document is part of the "record".
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