Jul 2, 2005 14:54
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Chinese term
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装修与装饰
Chinese to English
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
不得对商铺进行装修,只可以装饰。
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Chinese term (edited):
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remodelling vs. redecorating
no remodelling of the store-front is allowed, only redecorating.
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Note added at 9 mins (2005-07-02 15:04:07 GMT)
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I\'m not sure if this only applies to the store-front or the whole store?
reconstruction is another option for remodelling
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Note added at 57 mins (2005-07-02 15:52:32 GMT)
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>>> what lexical difference will there be if it is applied to the store-front only or the whole store?
Ed, I don\'t think there would be much difference in the two English terms. I would still use remodelling and redecorating if it were the whole store. The thing to determine is whether the Chinese text is referring to only the store-front or the whole store. You might be able to decide from the rest of the text. But maybe not.
My feeling of the Chinese is it applies to the whole store.
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Note added at 1 day 12 hrs 26 mins (2005-07-04 03:21:50 GMT)
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This lease agreement doesn\'t say what is allowed or disallowed, but it does mention \"redecorating, repairing, remodeling\" as potential work categories done to the rental property. See top of page 3 of the pdf file.
http://www.msc-rents.com/userdocs/2005_lease_2.pdf
Resident agrees to allow access and occupancy to workmen for redecorating, repairing or remodeling the premises.
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Note added at 9 mins (2005-07-02 15:04:07 GMT)
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I\'m not sure if this only applies to the store-front or the whole store?
reconstruction is another option for remodelling
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Note added at 57 mins (2005-07-02 15:52:32 GMT)
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>>> what lexical difference will there be if it is applied to the store-front only or the whole store?
Ed, I don\'t think there would be much difference in the two English terms. I would still use remodelling and redecorating if it were the whole store. The thing to determine is whether the Chinese text is referring to only the store-front or the whole store. You might be able to decide from the rest of the text. But maybe not.
My feeling of the Chinese is it applies to the whole store.
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Note added at 1 day 12 hrs 26 mins (2005-07-04 03:21:50 GMT)
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This lease agreement doesn\'t say what is allowed or disallowed, but it does mention \"redecorating, repairing, remodeling\" as potential work categories done to the rental property. See top of page 3 of the pdf file.
http://www.msc-rents.com/userdocs/2005_lease_2.pdf
Resident agrees to allow access and occupancy to workmen for redecorating, repairing or remodeling the premises.
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Chinoise
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billychang
: I think it is decorating instead of redecorating/Looking at the context again, this is like rnting an apartment, the tenant can decorate the apt without painting the walls or put nails in the wall.
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Thanks, Billy. Sure, decorating is fine too. But typically in these situations there is already some decorative scheme existing, and the tenant wants to change the appearance, or refurbish to suit his/her taste or business need, imo.
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fanyizhuanjia
: remodelling and redecorating is different
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chica nueva
: you can't make 'alterations' - put in/remove partitioning etc.
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DauWu
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Comment: "Thank all of you very much for your contribution. Many of your suggestions are good and Wherestip's is probably the best."
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Chinese term (edited):
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fit up and decorate
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chica nueva
: quite good. do you mean 'fit out'? No, although it is in the dictionary fit-up is not commonly used and fit-out = 室内设计...
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Denyce Seow
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Chinese term (edited):
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装修 - Remodel
装饰 - Refurbish
IMHO - in your context, "remodel" and "refurbish" should be a more appropriate term than "renovate" and "decorate" respectively.
Usually when renting a place the landlord will allow you to paint, to drill a few holes, nail a few nails. However (s)he obviously will not be too thrilled if you want to seal up a window and open one up on the other side of the shop. All the words that have been suggested so far are pretty close (I would even say they are synonyms) - you have to judge for yourself....
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Note added at 8 hrs 34 mins (2005-07-02 23:29:01 GMT)
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Correction: \"drill a few holes, and nail a few nails.\"
装饰 - Refurbish
IMHO - in your context, "remodel" and "refurbish" should be a more appropriate term than "renovate" and "decorate" respectively.
Usually when renting a place the landlord will allow you to paint, to drill a few holes, nail a few nails. However (s)he obviously will not be too thrilled if you want to seal up a window and open one up on the other side of the shop. All the words that have been suggested so far are pretty close (I would even say they are synonyms) - you have to judge for yourself....
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Note added at 8 hrs 34 mins (2005-07-02 23:29:01 GMT)
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Correction: \"drill a few holes, and nail a few nails.\"
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Chinese term (edited):
װ����װ��
remodelling and redecorating
remodelling and redecorating is different
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Chinese term (edited):
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(structural) alterations; (surface) ornamentation/decoration
第八讲英语知识运用-北文讲堂-中国考试网/北文教育 - [ Translate this page ]
decorate装饰，尤指房屋、房间的彻底全面的装修。ornament装点、装饰，多指点缀美化，
锦上添花之类的装点。cover掩盖、 ... More people will eat out in restaurants than
they do today; also they will have a much wider variety of food available. ...
www.sinoexam.cn/schoolroom/kaoyanen/2004-08-05/600.html - 22k - Cached - Similar pages
-> it is meaning 2.
It is not 'fit-out':
中国传媒人才网----|传媒英才|编辑记者|记者招聘|传媒人才|中国记者| - [ Translate this page ]
... expert services in the following disciplines to meet client’s needs at every
stage of interior fit-out projects. ... 康新的专业人士，将竭诚为您提供下列各阶段
的室内设计工程服务： 康新专长于办公室、商业空间、精品店、金融、医疗及 ...
job.lagoo.com.cn/media/company_show.asp?companyid=16 - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
装修 = fit up (a house, etc) eg 装修门面 fit up the front of a shop
装饰 = decorate; adorn; ornament; deck 彩旗和鲜花把公园装饰得十分绚丽.The park was gaily decorated with bunting and flowers. 装饰图案 decorative pattern
-> These two definitions are not very useful in this context.
装修 is not 'renovation' this time:
智联招聘网--个人求职--职位信息显示 - [ Translate this page ]
... During construction or renovation，he checks that everybody plays his role properly．
在建设或装修的过程中,他要检查每个人对他们自己职责的情况. ... 5／Capital expenditure expenses
He has to run a section dealing with refurbishment and alterations ...
www．zhaopin．com/jobseeker/ps_ request.jsp?vacancyid=12217424&language=1 - 22k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
装修 = alterations here
北京租房合同,出租求租房屋信息,个人合租房 - [ Translate this page ]
5.6：THE LESSEE, upon written permission of THE LESSOR, may make additions or
alterations dealing with water, ... 租赁期内，乙方对出租房屋进行装修或增加设施
须征得甲方同意并经政府有关部门批准，并由甲方执行监理，所需费用由乙方承担。 ...
www.lamusi.com.cn/getinto06.htm - 45k - Cached - Similar pages
=> there is probably a standard form of words in English for 不得对商铺进行装修,只可以装饰 in lease agreements...(but what is it??)
decorate装饰，尤指房屋、房间的彻底全面的装修。ornament装点、装饰，多指点缀美化，
锦上添花之类的装点。cover掩盖、 ... More people will eat out in restaurants than
they do today; also they will have a much wider variety of food available. ...
www.sinoexam.cn/schoolroom/kaoyanen/2004-08-05/600.html - 22k - Cached - Similar pages
-> it is meaning 2.
It is not 'fit-out':
中国传媒人才网----|传媒英才|编辑记者|记者招聘|传媒人才|中国记者| - [ Translate this page ]
... expert services in the following disciplines to meet client’s needs at every
stage of interior fit-out projects. ... 康新的专业人士，将竭诚为您提供下列各阶段
的室内设计工程服务： 康新专长于办公室、商业空间、精品店、金融、医疗及 ...
job.lagoo.com.cn/media/company_show.asp?companyid=16 - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
装修 = fit up (a house, etc) eg 装修门面 fit up the front of a shop
装饰 = decorate; adorn; ornament; deck 彩旗和鲜花把公园装饰得十分绚丽.The park was gaily decorated with bunting and flowers. 装饰图案 decorative pattern
-> These two definitions are not very useful in this context.
装修 is not 'renovation' this time:
智联招聘网--个人求职--职位信息显示 - [ Translate this page ]
... During construction or renovation，he checks that everybody plays his role properly．
在建设或装修的过程中,他要检查每个人对他们自己职责的情况. ... 5／Capital expenditure expenses
He has to run a section dealing with refurbishment and alterations ...
www．zhaopin．com/jobseeker/ps_ request.jsp?vacancyid=12217424&language=1 - 22k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
装修 = alterations here
北京租房合同,出租求租房屋信息,个人合租房 - [ Translate this page ]
5.6：THE LESSEE, upon written permission of THE LESSOR, may make additions or
alterations dealing with water, ... 租赁期内，乙方对出租房屋进行装修或增加设施
须征得甲方同意并经政府有关部门批准，并由甲方执行监理，所需费用由乙方承担。 ...
www.lamusi.com.cn/getinto06.htm - 45k - Cached - Similar pages
=> there is probably a standard form of words in English for 不得对商铺进行装修,只可以装饰 in lease agreements...(but what is it??)
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