Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Jan 24 10:18
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French term
puits isolé
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Construction / Civil Engineering
Concrete foundations
In a rather telegraphic works progress report for a large industrial construction project.
Referring to a type of foundation — clearly, a localized small foundation for e.g. a signle column or pile, as distinct from a linear strip foundation.
Can anyone tell me the proper technical term for this?
And as an associated term, cnay anyone tell me what we'd call a 'masse isolée' — here, it appears just to be referring to the lump of concrete that constitutes this 'puits isolé'
Thanks in advance for your insights!
Referring to a type of foundation — clearly, a localized small foundation for e.g. a signle column or pile, as distinct from a linear strip foundation.
Can anyone tell me the proper technical term for this?
And as an associated term, cnay anyone tell me what we'd call a 'masse isolée' — here, it appears just to be referring to the lump of concrete that constitutes this 'puits isolé'
Thanks in advance for your insights!
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +2 | single shaft | liz askew |
3 +2 | individual shaft foundation / foundation shaft | Bourth |
3 | Insulated well | Anastasia Kalantzi |
2 | separate wellpoint | Adrian MM. |
References
Quelques pistes | david henrion |
suggestion | liz askew |
Proposed translations
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5 hrs
Selected
single shaft
From the references quoted
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or
single block (for massif)
https://www.translatorscafe.com/tcterms/en-US/question.aspx?...
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or
foundation base
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/construction-ci...
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https://vitrinelinguistique.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/fiche-gdt/fiche/...
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https://patents.google.com/patent/FR2845705A1/en
The reinforcing procedure for a pylon's foundations, comprising a concrete block with a sole (5) below it for each of the pylon's feet and a socket (6) .
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or
single block (for massif)
https://www.translatorscafe.com/tcterms/en-US/question.aspx?...
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or
foundation base
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/construction-ci...
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https://vitrinelinguistique.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/fiche-gdt/fiche/...
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https://patents.google.com/patent/FR2845705A1/en
The reinforcing procedure for a pylon's foundations, comprising a concrete block with a sole (5) below it for each of the pylon's feet and a socket (6) .
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
3 hrs
separate wellpoint
> to start the ball rolling and pending a diagram or drawing to confirm or disaffirm the one in the discussion entry.
Better post masse isolée as a separate term. Meantime, subject to any ideas from my builder bother-in-law from Croydon: a separate slab.
Better post masse isolée as a separate term. Meantime, subject to any ideas from my builder bother-in-law from Croydon: a separate slab.
Example sentence:
IATE: fr épuisement par puits filtrants isolés COM en drainage by separate well points
Each section that you pour will be a separate slab surrounded by expansion joints on all sides.
3 hrs
Insulated well
Une proposition basée sur la référence que j'ai donné ci-dessus dans l'espace de la discussion, pas avec une grande certitude, mais simplement une proposition qui pourrait bien être valable dans ce cas.
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isoler [qch]⇒ vtr (protéger des températures extérieures) insulate
https://www.wordreference.com/fren/isolé
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjGqXxHl6RQ
https://www.amazon.com/insulated-well-pump-cover/s?k=insulat...
https://www.outbuildingsok.com/insulated-well-houses.html
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isoler [qch]⇒ vtr (protéger des températures extérieures) insulate
https://www.wordreference.com/fren/isolé
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjGqXxHl6RQ
https://www.amazon.com/insulated-well-pump-cover/s?k=insulat...
https://www.outbuildingsok.com/insulated-well-houses.html
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4 hrs
individual shaft foundation / foundation shaft
That's a very good question, Tony, and I thank you for asking it! ;-)
I've not encountered the term, though puits in this context is obviously 'shaft', so I'd say 'shaft foundation' as a starting point. I don't know that puits or shaft foundations can be anything BUT isolés ... I suppose, though, you could have a string of contiguous shafts, just as you can have contiguous piles (secant piling). Recherche faite, yes, there is such a concept as secant shafts (also tangent shafts): https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/engineering/geotech/nhi18024.pdf
"Shaft foundations. These are constructed within deep excavations supported by lining constructed in place and subsequently filled with concrete or other prefabricated load-bearing units."
[Civil Engineer's Reference Book, L.S. Blake]
As opposed to pile foundations which are not (generally) supported (even if they are not simply piles driven or screwed into the ground, being of reduced diameter, support is not generally required).
If we consider shallow foundations, we have (from my notes):
Semelle isolée - Individual footing; isolated or pad footing [Chudley,vol2,p16-18; CW,19.5.93 p25]
So 'individual/isolated shaft foundation' or 'individual/isolated foundation shaft' would get the correct message across.
It's not common, but you will find 'individual shaft foundation' (and 'grouped shaft foundation') here:
https://ir.canterbury.ac.nz/server/api/core/bitstreams/997db...
I get the impression 'shaft' in the above refers to an oversize 'pile' given that the grouped shafts are the foundation beneath what would normally be called a 'pile cap'.
Note the US 'well foundation' (from my notes again):
Pier foundations - puits de fondation - excavation into which concrete foundation is cast; not as deep as pile foundations, and more massive. Aka "well foundation" in US (and India). Often referred to as "puits marocain" (top-down concrete lined excavation subsequently filled with concrete), though this is really a subset, in any case, a "puits marocain" is in my experience always for a bridge pier, so there may be confusion.
Your masse might be an error for massif which, as described here (I can't cut/paste it), is synonymous with puits :
https://www.ge-2e.com/fondations-geologie-geotechnique-etude...
And from my notes:
Massif de fondation - Foundation block [Blake, 17/26, 27/34], pedestal - In one case the 'foundation block' is the pedestal on which machinery is placed, in the other it is a pile/shaft with an enlarged 'elephant foot'.
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Reading the text in the image below (fondations profondes filantes vs puits isolés), I conclude that the isolé is tautological reinforcement, i.e. as first said above 'shafts cannot be anything BUT isolés. So, just 'shafts', 'foundation shafts', and quite possibly simply 'piles' if, as you say, they are a 'small localized foundation for a single column'.
I've not encountered the term, though puits in this context is obviously 'shaft', so I'd say 'shaft foundation' as a starting point. I don't know that puits or shaft foundations can be anything BUT isolés ... I suppose, though, you could have a string of contiguous shafts, just as you can have contiguous piles (secant piling). Recherche faite, yes, there is such a concept as secant shafts (also tangent shafts): https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/engineering/geotech/nhi18024.pdf
"Shaft foundations. These are constructed within deep excavations supported by lining constructed in place and subsequently filled with concrete or other prefabricated load-bearing units."
[Civil Engineer's Reference Book, L.S. Blake]
As opposed to pile foundations which are not (generally) supported (even if they are not simply piles driven or screwed into the ground, being of reduced diameter, support is not generally required).
If we consider shallow foundations, we have (from my notes):
Semelle isolée - Individual footing; isolated or pad footing [Chudley,vol2,p16-18; CW,19.5.93 p25]
So 'individual/isolated shaft foundation' or 'individual/isolated foundation shaft' would get the correct message across.
It's not common, but you will find 'individual shaft foundation' (and 'grouped shaft foundation') here:
https://ir.canterbury.ac.nz/server/api/core/bitstreams/997db...
I get the impression 'shaft' in the above refers to an oversize 'pile' given that the grouped shafts are the foundation beneath what would normally be called a 'pile cap'.
Note the US 'well foundation' (from my notes again):
Pier foundations - puits de fondation - excavation into which concrete foundation is cast; not as deep as pile foundations, and more massive. Aka "well foundation" in US (and India). Often referred to as "puits marocain" (top-down concrete lined excavation subsequently filled with concrete), though this is really a subset, in any case, a "puits marocain" is in my experience always for a bridge pier, so there may be confusion.
Your masse might be an error for massif which, as described here (I can't cut/paste it), is synonymous with puits :
https://www.ge-2e.com/fondations-geologie-geotechnique-etude...
And from my notes:
Massif de fondation - Foundation block [Blake, 17/26, 27/34], pedestal - In one case the 'foundation block' is the pedestal on which machinery is placed, in the other it is a pile/shaft with an enlarged 'elephant foot'.
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Reading the text in the image below (fondations profondes filantes vs puits isolés), I conclude that the isolé is tautological reinforcement, i.e. as first said above 'shafts cannot be anything BUT isolés. So, just 'shafts', 'foundation shafts', and quite possibly simply 'piles' if, as you say, they are a 'small localized foundation for a single column'.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Daryo
: So far, makes the most sense.
1 day 4 hrs
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agree |
Andrew Bramhall
8 days
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Reference comments
2 hrs
Reference:
Quelques pistes
Je pense que vous savez déjà ce que c'est en français mais au cas où, vous pouvez consulter ces deux sites pour les fouilles en puits et en pleine masse.
https://www.editions-eyrolles.com/Dico-BTP/definition.html?i...
https://www.m-habitat.fr/terrassement-et-fondation/fouilles-...
https://www.editions-eyrolles.com/Dico-BTP/definition.html?i...
https://www.m-habitat.fr/terrassement-et-fondation/fouilles-...
2 hrs
Reference:
suggestion
single shaft?
based on a lot of reading
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https://s3.amazonaws.com/suncam/docs/376.pdf
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see "puits ou massif"
https://www.ge-2e.com/fondations-geologie-geotechnique-etude...
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https://ftp.txdot.gov/pub/txdot-info/cmd/cserve/specs/1995/s...
If the shaft is lengthened, the longitudinal bars and lateral reinforcement ... All dowel bars shall be adequately supported and may be inserted after concrete ...
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massif, see:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/construction-ci...
based on a lot of reading
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https://s3.amazonaws.com/suncam/docs/376.pdf
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see "puits ou massif"
https://www.ge-2e.com/fondations-geologie-geotechnique-etude...
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https://ftp.txdot.gov/pub/txdot-info/cmd/cserve/specs/1995/s...
If the shaft is lengthened, the longitudinal bars and lateral reinforcement ... All dowel bars shall be adequately supported and may be inserted after concrete ...
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massif, see:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/construction-ci...
Discussion
This is just a list of items, and those with the appropriate relevant knowledge have already been able to give definitive answers.
But here the meaning of "puits isolé" is already clear enough.
It's a hole in the ground dug in form of a well, that will be filled later with a concrete foundation. What makes it "isolé" is that it "stands alone" - as opposed to the case when a number of "puits" are dug in a cluster and once filled with concrete will be used together to support some construction above them.
In the same way "massifs isolés" would be unconnected lumps of concrete - "isolés" in the sense of each being "standalone".
see this example:
Massifs isolés et semelles filantes de fondations des balcons en pignon, escaliers et paliers des entrées etc
https://www.battyconstruction.fr/rehabilitation-de-92-logeme...
"semelle filante" is ONE foundation block going all along external walls so by opposition "massifs isolés" would be separate "punctual" foundations.
1) As I have made it quite clear, this is about building foundations; nothing do do with mineshafts etc. It's important to remember that the fundamental meaning of 'puits' is essentially 'pit'
2) As I have corrected, 'masse' was my error, it should have been 'massif'
3) But in any case, the meaning in geology is only one narrow sense from the much wider underlying meaning of the word.
Apologies for my slip!
And no, it is nothing to do with either water or oil — this is specifically relating to concrete foundations
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/construction-ci...
https://fr.123rf.com/photo_13524549_illustration-d-un-puits-...
https://www.freepik.com/premium-psd/water-well-isolated-tran...
https://www.mmscience.eu/journal/issues/june-2023/articles/w...